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#90 : May 08, 2012, 02:32:23 PM

If you look at the core of players the Bucs have (Freeman, Jackson, Martin, Blount, and even Winslow) on offensive, the Bucs don't look like a cellar team. If Freeman plays anywhere near the way he did in 2010, they should be pretty damn good. Freeman didn't have a lot to work with last season - this year he does.

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#91 : May 08, 2012, 02:34:22 PM

If you look at the core of players the Bucs have (Freeman, Jackson, Martin, Blount, and even Winslow) on offensive, the Bucs don't look like a cellar team. If Freeman plays anywhere near the way he did in 2010, they should be pretty damn good. Freeman didn't have a lot to work with last season - this year he does.

On paper our team looks pretty good. Weve added A LOT to this team from last year. We got rid of a couple bad players as well. The team should no doubt be better. How much depends on them and coach Schiano.

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#92 : May 08, 2012, 07:31:30 PM

Freeman didn't have a lot to work with last season - this year he does.

Freeman had more to work with in 2011 than Garcia had to work with in 2007 or 2008.


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#93 : May 08, 2012, 07:52:38 PM

Freeman didn't have a lot to work with last season - this year he does.

Freeman had more to work with in 2011 than Garcia had to work with in 2007 or 2008.

Garcia had Gruden calling plays...Freeman had LOlson

Gruden > Olson


Hell, brees might not be as accurate as manziel.

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#94 : May 08, 2012, 07:54:00 PM

Gruden is better than pretty much anyone out there.   


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#95 : May 08, 2012, 08:47:46 PM

Gruden is better than pretty much anyone out there.

So Garcia, in a sense, had more to work with...right? That is, if you think playcalling/gameplan is a huge factor.


Hell, brees might not be as accurate as manziel.

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#96 : May 08, 2012, 09:18:31 PM

Gruden is better than pretty much anyone out there.

At stepping on his own Johnson...?  At totally ruining what could have / should have been a mercurial career...?  At not being able to evaluate prospective young players - or develop them...?

Yep... Gruden's better than anyone at screwing everything up.


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#97 : May 09, 2012, 09:35:20 AM

Gruden is better than pretty much anyone out there.

So Garcia, in a sense, had more to work with...right? That is, if you think playcalling/gameplan is a huge factor.

Freeman had a more talented surrounding cast on the field.


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#98 : May 09, 2012, 04:29:51 PM

Gruden is better than pretty much anyone out there.

So Garcia, in a sense, had more to work with...right? That is, if you think playcalling/gameplan is a huge factor.

Freeman had a more talented surrounding cast on the field.

Yup, those rookies sure were talented. Some could argue that Raheem coached up more young players than Gruden did in his short stint as HC.
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