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: April 22, 2012, 09:43:10 AM

The Schiano coaching system has yet to be unwrapped. At best we could say we have read the gift tag on the package so the are more questions then answers. Based on the 3 past coaching staffs "'Dungy. Gruden, and Morris we can see the holes that are apparent when coaches do not give inferior priority to certain  facets of the game. Dungy was an excellent developmental player coach. He brought out the best in players on and off the field. His expectations of players went beyond football and went into developing the players moral standards. What made Dubgy great was the he walked the talk. Dungy expected more out of himself then he did the players when it came to moral standards and the players followed him down that path. However Dungy could not develop a game day game plan and strategy that could out optimize the talent the he developed. Enter Gruden. With Dungy players Gruden was able to take these players and create a game plan to destroy his opponents. Gruden is a great on the field general that is intense and demands performance and got it from players that were already primed and ready to go. however Gruden was unable to developed players and even ended up destroying more careers then he made by his degrading attitude and demeanour. Gruden could not develop players he used them and after he was done he spit them out. So in comes Morris a coach that could relate to players go out and party with them. Well we know how that turned out with a young team like the Bucs it was like adding fuel to the fire.

So now we get Schiano a compassionate disciplinarian. How will this turn out?
Oops got to go. Let me know what fasit of the game you feel Schiano will need help with moving forward.

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#1 : April 22, 2012, 10:14:02 AM

Enter Gruden. With Dungy players Gruden was able to take these players and create a game plan to destroy his opponents.

Maybe everyone should start saying with "Sam Wyche's Players" because Dungy may have developed players to be "men" off the field, but he couldn't find players to put on it.  Other than Ronde Barber, who did Dungy bring in and develop?  Look at Indy.  We really see the mess he left them in.  I just don't understand the "coaching" pedestal people still put him on.  GREAT MAN, but I think far from great coach.

Also, everyone forgets we brought in Dilger, Pittman, Juervicious, McCardell, Roman Oben.  All which were major contributors and reasons we got where we did ... none of them were "Dungy's Guys".

Dungy was a great man and leader that benefited majorly from the foundation Sam Wyche left him with.  Gruden was a great coach that was a bad man and couldn't stop lying and back-stabbing players.  Morris ... uugh.

If Schiano can install his "Buccaneer Ways" (Trust, Belief, Accountability), he'll get the good part of Dungy.  If he can install a great game plan and teach the details, he'll get the good part of Gruden.  So IMO he has to do what both of those lacked... finding talent in the draft that fit our system.  He has to be a Wyche, Dungy & Gruden all rolled into one.
: April 22, 2012, 10:17:33 AM BTownBucFan

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#2 : April 22, 2012, 11:15:03 AM

Our Offense will be Vanilla. It's the Buccaneer Way.
The only advantage we'll have for awhile, just like when Greg Olson was OC, is AT THE BEGINNING, no team has tape on "what we do"...



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#3 : April 22, 2012, 11:18:23 AM

Maybe everyone should start saying with "Sam Wyche's Players" because Dungy may have developed players to be "men" off the field, but he couldn't find players to put on it.  Other than Ronde Barber, who did Dungy bring in and develop?  Look at Indy.  We really see the mess he left them in.  I just don't understand the "coaching" pedestal people still put him on.  GREAT MAN, but I think far from great coach.

Also, everyone forgets we brought in Dilger, Pittman, Juervicious, McCardell, Roman Oben.  All which were major contributors and reasons we got where we did ... none of them were "Dungy's Guys".

Dungy was a great man and leader that benefited majorly from the foundation Sam Wyche left him with.  Gruden was a great coach that was a bad man and couldn't stop lying and back-stabbing players.  Morris ... uugh.

If Schiano can install his "Buccaneer Ways" (Trust, Belief, Accountability), he'll get the good part of Dungy.  If he can install a great game plan and teach the details, he'll get the good part of Gruden.  So IMO he has to do what both of those lacked... finding talent in the draft that fit our system.  He has to be a Wyche, Dungy & Gruden all rolled into one.

Pretty fair take on it BTown...

I'd like to introduce the OP to a few words:  Encompassing...  Facet...  and than.

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