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Quote from: bucball1 on May 21, 2012, 01:23:54 PMIt was dumb to announce that winslow is no longer. Wanted in Tampa because now you have no trade value what so ever teams will just wait for him to be released .An plus on top of that Clark is washed up another product of Payton Manning without him he ain't **CENSORED** another none blocking tightendNot really. I know this is the popular thought by many fans when things like this happen but Tampa has been trying to trade K2 since before the draft. If there was any value it would have been found by now. If anything, this is a last ditch effort to get a team to offer a 6th or 7th rounder for him to prevent other teams from getting him.
It was dumb to announce that winslow is no longer. Wanted in Tampa because now you have no trade value what so ever teams will just wait for him to be released .An plus on top of that Clark is washed up another product of Payton Manning without him he ain't **CENSORED** another none blocking tightend
Who the **CENSORED** cares if this dude practices with his team or not in the offseason.
Really hard to say how good he is at this point. Obviously he had a gigantic drop off, but going from Peyton to Painter/Orlovsky will hurt anyone. If he can come close to Winslow's production, I'd consider it a win since he won't come with the same attitude problems.
Quote from: nubcake on May 21, 2012, 02:54:56 PMReally hard to say how good he is at this point. Obviously he had a gigantic drop off, but going from Peyton to Painter/Orlovsky will hurt anyone. If he can come close to Winslow's production, I'd consider it a win since he won't come with the same attitude problems.if we add VJax's numbers to the mix (who hopefully have much better numbers than Winslow) the TE will just be a bonus option. Winslow's TD count was poor last year too.
I think in an ideal scenario, Stocker would turn out to be Dallas Clark 2.0 so having Dallas here to mentor him would be great. Plus Dallas worked with the greatest QB of all time for the better part of a decade, so me thinks he could be helpful to Freeman as well. He's definitely a short term answer, but that is fine. I really hope he is healthy and we sign him. Schiano has really changed the face of this team in just a few short months.
The Drake made K2 expendable. Let's get the hype machine started early on Dunsmore!
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.
Quote from: JDouble on May 21, 2012, 03:39:47 PMI think in an ideal scenario, Stocker would turn out to be Dallas Clark 2.0 so having Dallas here to mentor him would be great. Plus Dallas worked with the greatest QB of all time for the better part of a decade, so me thinks he could be helpful to Freeman as well. He's definitely a short term answer, but that is fine. I really hope he is healthy and we sign him. Schiano has really changed the face of this team in just a few short months.I think maybe The Drake is more a DC 2.0? Stocker... maybe an Owen Daniels type? we can hope.