Holder and Joe in a little dustup

[Morgan]

The third-person stuff is not for everyone, but that's ok. We encourage everyone that can't stand the site to never visit.

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[CyberDilemma]

The third-person stuff is not for everyone, but that's ok. We encourage everyone that can't stand the site to never visit.

Great business model.

lol

[Bucs N Beers]

We encourage everyone that can't stand the site to never visit.

I would be happy to take you up on your offer. Thanks for the encouragement.

[Hate]

@Morgan

Have to speak up on this one. This is "Joe"

Look, JoeBucsFan has just the same amount of credibility concerns as any other entity, perhaps more. Holder only works for the Times. The writers of JoeBucsFan.com own the profitable site and are  subject to the same libel concerns as any other media outlet. Also, JoeBucsFan.com is credentialed by the Bucs and routinely is credentialed by the NFL on request.

Frankly, we have way more to lose than one reporter at a newspaper.

Secondly, there's plenty of original content and opinion on JoeBucsFan.com. The archives serve as proof. The traffic wouldn't be what it was if JoeBucsFan was nothing but links and edgy opinion.

Thanks for speaking up - I know that you monitor PR mbs. DIdn't realize the credentialing and accuracy challenges that your site faces. I always considered bloggers in general to be the equivalent of opinionated columnist or radio talk show hosts like Big Dog - that's why the comment blogger vs journalist.    PS: visit your site several times throughout the day. Glad you're in business.

Smooches!!

[warrenfb12]

These "tweets" speak volumes in regard to Holder's professionalism.

[Morgan]

These "tweets" speak volumes in regard to Holder's professionalism.

I'm disappointed - thought he'd take the high road.

[caradoc]

These "tweets" speak volumes in regard to Holder's professionalism.

That's funny.  You used "Holder" and "professionalism" in the same sentence.


And there is no difference between a blogger and a journalist.

[dbucfan]

We are truly into offseason when dumb and dumber get attention.  Oh yea, Isbut - no thanks.  But if you can keep Morgan entertained on your site it would be appreciated.  Maybe something with animal shapes and names to match up...

[bucs4eva]

JBF is(are) the biggest tool bag(s). Totally unprofessional, and they block any comment that doesn't suck up to them or they disagree with. Glad Holder called those clowns out.

[bucs4eva]

The third-person stuff is not for everyone, but that's ok. We encourage everyone that can't stand the site to never visit.

Haha case and point.

[Bucko40]

I accused Holder of assumptions this morning in another thread and he wasn't angry with me. I guess I dont have the cred of JoeBuc. 

[dbucfan]

You likely aren't as aggravating as the folks on that site....

[GameTime]

gotta give 'em some credit, JBF certainly gets under you guys skin.

[Morgan]

gotta give 'em some credit, JBF certainly gets under you guys skin.

these posters here don't trust many - including the writers of all area sports pages, the radio talks how hosts, and bloggers/reporters from various websites focusing on the Bucs.

[bucs4eva]

JBF is totally unprofessional. Stopped reading his garbage a long time ago.