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#465 : September 26, 2012, 09:00:08 PM

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/florida-sends-election-departments-list-of-198-potential-non-citizens---/1253538
Interesting, how exactly do you envision voter ID impacting situations like this?

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#466 : September 28, 2012, 06:10:32 AM

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/florida-sends-election-departments-list-of-198-potential-non-citizens---/1253538
Interesting, how exactly do you envision voter ID impacting situations like this?

relax there "CBW"  I thought there was NO fraud.  Now its "yes, there is fraud but the solution is a bad fit'?  Really ..... lol

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#467 : September 28, 2012, 08:07:46 AM

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/florida-sends-election-departments-list-of-198-potential-non-citizens---/1253538
Interesting, how exactly do you envision voter ID impacting situations like this?

relax there "CBW"  I thought there was NO fraud.  Now its "yes, there is fraud but the solution is a bad fit'?  Really ..... lol

Quite a bit of a drop there from 2,700 to 198. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the article says "potential non-citizens". This ain't fraud, genius. And I'm still waiting for you to find the quote where anyone saif that there was NO fraud. Put it out there days ago, yet you still can't provide it. I guess you get your rocks off from arguing straw men. Oh, and from challenging people to fights at RayJay.


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#468 : September 28, 2012, 08:13:26 AM

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/florida-sends-election-departments-list-of-198-potential-non-citizens---/1253538
Interesting, how exactly do you envision voter ID impacting situations like this?

relax there "CBW"  I thought there was NO fraud.  Now its "yes, there is fraud but the solution is a bad fit'?  Really ..... lol

My bad. I thought you actually wanted to make a coherent point. Turned out to be the same old stupid again.

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#469 : September 28, 2012, 02:58:14 PM

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/florida-sends-election-departments-list-of-198-potential-non-citizens---/1253538
Interesting, how exactly do you envision voter ID impacting situations like this?

relax there "CBW"  I thought there was NO fraud.  Now its "yes, there is fraud but the solution is a bad fit'?  Really ..... lol

Quite a bit of a drop there from 2,700 to 198. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the article says "potential non-citizens". This ain't fraud, genius. And I'm still waiting for you to find the quote where anyone saif that there was NO fraud. Put it out there days ago, yet you still can't provide it. I guess you get your rocks off from arguing straw men. Oh, and from challenging people to fights at RayJay.

LMAO  "This ain't fraud genius" -- LOL, of course not because your definition of fraud is CONVICTION.  Hahahahaha Thanks for being you CBW.  You are so freaking predictable. 

You should also read a little closer.  And any rational person -- or at least someone willing to read the actual law -- would understand the basic policy behind the law upheld by the US Supreme Court is that governments have a RATIONAL BASIS for requiring IDs for voting because of the POTENTIAL for fraud.  The instances pointed out in this article are not FRAUD because of the absence of mens rea (state of mind --that is part of that makes your conviction argument laughable in addition to dishonest) but the OBVIOUS point (to anyone with a reasonable mind) is that people voting that should not be able to vote underscores the POTENTIAL for fraud. 

Have to love the circular "logic" that says that you have CATCH someone commiting an act before you try to prevent it, especially when the act IS FRAUD -- lol -- and the issue is the MOST IMPORTANT (voting)
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#470 : September 28, 2012, 03:06:32 PM

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/florida-sends-election-departments-list-of-198-potential-non-citizens---/1253538
Interesting, how exactly do you envision voter ID impacting situations like this?

relax there "CBW"  I thought there was NO fraud.  Now its "yes, there is fraud but the solution is a bad fit'?  Really ..... lol

My bad. I thought you actually wanted to make a coherent point. Turned out to be the same old stupid again.

actually, your response made the point, I just highlighted it.

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#471 : September 28, 2012, 04:11:19 PM

The instances pointed out in this article are not FRAUD because of the absence of mens rea (state of mind)

Thank you for the twinge of honesty in an otherwise nonsensical post. Concession noted.



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#472 : September 28, 2012, 04:28:31 PM

The instances pointed out in this article are not FRAUD because of the absence of mens rea (state of mind)

Thank you for the twinge of honesty in an otherwise nonsensical post. Concession noted.

Funny stuff with the "concession noted"  Puts someone who tries to play the part of an intellectual on the same level as . . . hmm . .  Biggs?  You must be proud.

As is the CBW way, just ignore the inconvenient parts and keep circling and circling and circling. :-) Results-oriented debate.

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#473 : September 29, 2012, 01:52:49 AM

relax there "CBW"  I thought there was NO fraud.

The instances pointed out in this article are not FRAUD because of the absence of mens rea (state of mind)

Presents the link as evidence of "fraud", then concedes that "the instances pointed out in this article are not fraud". Wouldn't that be an inconvinient part that you are ignoring? Just saying...


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#474 : September 29, 2012, 10:09:24 AM

relax there "CBW"  I thought there was NO fraud.

The instances pointed out in this article are not FRAUD because of the absence of mens rea (state of mind)

Presents the link as evidence of "fraud", then concedes that "the instances pointed out in this article are not fraud". Wouldn't that be an inconvinient part that you are ignoring? Just saying...

Even I thought you were smarter than that and you probably are ... Which tells us something about your honesty. (note the point I made which you have totally left behind -lol)

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#475 : September 29, 2012, 02:50:04 PM

looks to me like we are back to what the definition of "is" is.

Voter FRAUD may or may not be the exact and/or correct legal definition, but what we are talking about, and what is universally accepted when the matter is discussed is illegal voting. What we have here above is nitpicking.

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#476 : September 29, 2012, 03:22:54 PM

looks to me like we are back to what the definition of "is" is.

Voter FRAUD may or may not be the exact and/or correct legal definition, but what we are talking about, and what is universally accepted when the matter is discussed is illegal voting. What we have here above is nitpicking.

Well, and from the perspective of the actual laws in this country what you have is a huge straw man argument.

The law is not based on the notion that fraud has to be discovered to justify any restriction on voting. The very well reasoned law is that voting is such an important part of our society that governments have the right or duty take steps to eliminate the potential for fraud. This should make sense to most because in general terms how would the fraud be undone if the result was an election that subverts the will of the people?

I think I made this point in a discussion of the US Supreme Court decision on Indiana's voter ID law back in the begining of this thread, but the straw man persists, which may tell us something . . .

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#477 : September 29, 2012, 03:52:56 PM

Contrary to what many believe, nobody has a Federal right to vote. Some State constitutions provide that right at a state level, but it does not exist in our constitution. Therefore, voting is a privilege. There is nothing wrong, bad or untoward IMO in proving you are entitled to that privilege.

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#478 : October 01, 2012, 03:23:03 PM

Funny how Univision is doing all the hard work the American media should be doing.

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#479 : October 01, 2012, 03:26:09 PM

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