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Quote from: snicker24 on June 25, 2012, 12:17:12 AMQuote from: chace1986 on June 24, 2012, 10:49:08 PMQuote from: JDouble on June 24, 2012, 10:20:07 PMHey Chace, Grimm's rookie year was on pace to be every bit as good as Eric Berry's before his unfortunate injury. If you consider that an "average season overall" then we have nothing to talk about. Did you not watch the 2010 season? He was literally one of our best players.Watched every single snap, of every single game. I just simply disagree that he was anything more than average...and I would speculate that so do the several people who made the Barron pick happen. Not a glaring vote of confidence I would say.I will respectfully disagree and say that Grimm, especially in his last four games of the 2010 season, was the best safety in the NFC. The way that guy sniffs out plays and then executes textbook tackles is glorious. If Schiano really wants the best 11 players on the field then he will find a way to incorporate Grimm into his gameplan.If the Bucs were so inclined to make Grimm a must have on the field, I'm not sure why they'd use the #7 pick in the draft on the position Grimm is most adept at and move a CB to fill the position Grimm is next best adept at. Now you can say what you will about how you feel about Grimm but it doesn't appear the people who count....members of the Bucs coaching staff....share that opinion.
Quote from: chace1986 on June 24, 2012, 10:49:08 PMQuote from: JDouble on June 24, 2012, 10:20:07 PMHey Chace, Grimm's rookie year was on pace to be every bit as good as Eric Berry's before his unfortunate injury. If you consider that an "average season overall" then we have nothing to talk about. Did you not watch the 2010 season? He was literally one of our best players.Watched every single snap, of every single game. I just simply disagree that he was anything more than average...and I would speculate that so do the several people who made the Barron pick happen. Not a glaring vote of confidence I would say.I will respectfully disagree and say that Grimm, especially in his last four games of the 2010 season, was the best safety in the NFC. The way that guy sniffs out plays and then executes textbook tackles is glorious. If Schiano really wants the best 11 players on the field then he will find a way to incorporate Grimm into his gameplan.
Quote from: JDouble on June 24, 2012, 10:20:07 PMHey Chace, Grimm's rookie year was on pace to be every bit as good as Eric Berry's before his unfortunate injury. If you consider that an "average season overall" then we have nothing to talk about. Did you not watch the 2010 season? He was literally one of our best players.Watched every single snap, of every single game. I just simply disagree that he was anything more than average...and I would speculate that so do the several people who made the Barron pick happen. Not a glaring vote of confidence I would say.
Hey Chace, Grimm's rookie year was on pace to be every bit as good as Eric Berry's before his unfortunate injury. If you consider that an "average season overall" then we have nothing to talk about. Did you not watch the 2010 season? He was literally one of our best players.
Quote from: chace1986 on June 24, 2012, 10:49:08 PMQuote from: JDouble on June 24, 2012, 10:20:07 PMHey Chace, Grimm's rookie year was on pace to be every bit as good as Eric Berry's before his unfortunate injury. If you consider that an "average season overall" then we have nothing to talk about. Did you not watch the 2010 season? He was literally one of our best players.Watched every single snap, of every single game. I just simply disagree that he was anything more than average...and I would speculate that so do the several people who made the Barron pick happen. Not a glaring vote of confidence I would say.That's is some dedication. s strong stomach for very bad play and a likely a good supply of alcoholic refreshments. I don't know anyone else who can say that with tickets or on television
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.
Drafting Barron has more to due with Grimm's injuries than lack of ability/production. I mean Okoye was brought in just in case McCoy gets injured again and if he does the Bucs may be drafting a DT early next year despite McCoy's outstanding talent.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't think your conclusion is necessarily accurate.The Bucs could very well see Grimm as the long term safety answer and still draft Barron. With Grimm returning from injury (and struggling a bit returning from injury last year), they could ease him back in behind Ronde in Ronde's last year with the intention of Barron and Grimm being the guys going forward. They're certainly not counting on Barber beyond this year.They very well might not think of Grimm as anything more than a depth and special teams guy, but I don't think drafting Barron explicitly says that that's the case.
I'm responding to posters claiming Grimm was the best safety in the league and that he's a "must get on the field" guy. That's pretty high level praise and guy's who are at that level don't have #7 picks in the draft and a guy who's been a very good CB moving to take the position he plays. If you want to say the Bucs might want to wait around a year, see how he plays and then if they like him they might play him that's fine but consider some of the comments being made in the thread. Grimm can do some things well....great tackler in the box. In coverage not so much. So with Barron's best abilities being in the box, I'm not sure Grimm and Barron is a good pairing even if the team waits for Ronde to retire.
Sounds like a dumb ass Bleacher Report article based on nothing in reality.
Quote from: JDouble on June 21, 2012, 07:16:53 AMSounds like a dumb ass Bleacher Report article based on nothing in reality.Good call.