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: June 28, 2012, 10:10:52 AM

Finally, some justice from the Supreme Court for the American taxpayer!!!


Guess I jumped too quick on the headline.

It's considered a tax

Don't know what that means.

Even TV new hosts don't seem to know either.
: June 28, 2012, 10:19:16 AM Uncle Stan

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#1 : June 28, 2012, 10:41:44 AM

Scratching my head a bit here to be honest. It looks like the SC struck down the the reasons argued by the Administration, but then upheld the mandate as a tax, which the Administration did not argue as far as I can tell. if I read that correctly there is going to be a bit of 'discussion' about that.

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#2 : June 28, 2012, 11:17:55 AM

What Im reading on yahoo is that the law was upheld as a tax, and Obamacare will go through. Chief Justice Roberts (a Bush appointee) swayed to the liberal side of the voting.

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#3 : June 28, 2012, 11:55:43 AM

Finally, some justice from the Supreme Court for the American taxpayer!!!


Guess I jumped too quick on the headline.

It's considered a tax

Don't know what that means.

Even TV new hosts don't seem to know either.

This explains it.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77935.html

Obama wins this one.

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#4 : June 28, 2012, 03:45:37 PM

Horrible day for the Constitution and America.

Dark days are ahead if this disaster isn't repealed.

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#5 : June 28, 2012, 04:53:51 PM

Finally, some justice from the Supreme Court for the American taxpayer!!!


Guess I jumped too quick on the headline.

It's considered a tax

Don't know what that means.

Even TV new hosts don't seem to know either.

This explains it.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77935.html

Obama wins this one.

Agreed that he "won" the battle, question is did he do so at expense of the war.  This will now be the rallying cry for Republicans. "The only way to defeat Obabama Care is to defeat Obama."

I have not had a chance to read the opinions yet, but wonder how much the election year played into the decision, almost a punt of sorts. Maybe at too big a cost to be considered a punt though

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#6 : June 28, 2012, 05:27:07 PM

Congress reserves the right to tax. The penalty for NOT keeping it can be considered a tax ( tax in reverse). Won't bother arguing the right or wrong of expecting people that show up to an ER room to have health insurance.

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#7 : June 28, 2012, 05:33:12 PM

On the upside, Roberts in his opinion seems to have totally nailed down the Commerce Clause so Congress cannot abuse it in this fashion again. The bad news is he pretty much said that as long as it is not a penalty or a mandate, Congress can pretty much do this for just about any subject matter, but, they can't pretend it's not a tax which might make it a bit tougher pill for Americans to swallow.

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#8 : June 28, 2012, 05:35:24 PM

This could well be a bad moment for Barry in the long run - (November 7th) as noted above.  If the only way to be rid of this "tax"/law is to be rid of Barry there are folks of all parties who will find the price acceptable. 

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#9 : June 28, 2012, 05:54:44 PM

I can vouch personally that Romneys campaign got a bit richer today. I know I am against pretty much all of Obama's policies but was still pretty much on the fence about Romney. This forced me off the fence.

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#10 : June 28, 2012, 07:10:22 PM

Anyone that votes for this guy again gets what they deserve.  Just think before you take the rest of us down with you.




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#11 : June 28, 2012, 07:46:32 PM

I can vouch personally that Romneys campaign got a bit richer today. I know I am against pretty much all of Obama's policies but was still pretty much on the fence about Romney. This forced me off the fence.
I understand the idea of voting for the platform, not the candidate, but you can't deny the irony of this situation. 

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#12 : June 28, 2012, 08:35:04 PM

I can vouch personally that Romneys campaign got a bit richer today. I know I am against pretty much all of Obama's policies but was still pretty much on the fence about Romney. This forced me off the fence.
I understand the idea of voting for the platform, not the candidate, but you can't deny the irony of this situation.

Maybe, but you reap what you sow!

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#13 : June 28, 2012, 09:05:18 PM

You know, the funny thing about this is that all of the reasons presented by the "Constitutional Professor" were thrown out as unconstitutional, yet the one thing he said it wasn't, was the only thing that kept it in law!

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#14 : June 28, 2012, 09:42:00 PM

I can vouch personally that Romneys campaign got a bit richer today. I know I am against pretty much all of Obama's policies but was still pretty much on the fence about Romney. This forced me off the fence.
I understand the idea of voting for the platform, not the candidate, but you can't deny the irony of this situation.

Maybe, but you reap what you sow!
I think you misunderstand. 

Obamacare is Romneycare.  Irony is your anger at Obamacare convincing you to vote for the guy who came up with the idea in the first place.  This makes me chuckle. 
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