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Brett Ratliff???This kid is a non-factor. Basically a traveling PS guy that was out of football last year til we added him to our PS late in Dec. Simple reason he is on the roster right now .... WE NEED QB'S TO THROW THE BALL IN TRAINING CAMP
I'm not sure he's right about Ratliff not being PS eligible and why he believes Ratliff would be claimed on waivers if he is.
Meh. Unless he lights it up in training camp.. Cut his azz!!
Quote from: ryan24 on July 15, 2012, 03:34:41 PMI'm not sure he's right about Ratliff not being PS eligible and why he believes Ratliff would be claimed on waivers if he is.I'm 99% sure on his eligibility. He's tenuered with his "accrued season", etc.I'm thinking he probably sees him getting picked up, if nothing more than the fact the NFL has around half of the starters go out due to injury every year.Personally, I'd rather see the keys being handed to Orlovsky, simply based on his actual "real game" playing time. He started 5 games last season (I think).Ratliff has never taken an NFL live snap... Unless he comes out in preseason and absolutely lights it up, It's Orlovsky IMO.
Quote from: BucsFTW on July 15, 2012, 03:49:01 PMQuote from: ryan24 on July 15, 2012, 03:34:41 PMI'm not sure he's right about Ratliff not being PS eligible and why he believes Ratliff would be claimed on waivers if he is.I'm 99% sure on his eligibility. He's tenuered with his "accrued season", etc.I'm thinking he probably sees him getting picked up, if nothing more than the fact the NFL has around half of the starters go out due to injury every year.Personally, I'd rather see the keys being handed to Orlovsky, simply based on his actual "real game" playing time. He started 5 games last season (I think).Ratliff has never taken an NFL live snap... Unless he comes out in preseason and absolutely lights it up, It's Orlovsky IMO.If Ratliff had been credited with a full season, he would not have been PS eligible last season since last year was clearly not an "accrued season" and he's spent multiple short periods on other teams PS since the only season he was on a 53 in '08. It's possible he may have spent too much time on the PS previously but it's tough to figure out. I think the rules for both "accrued season" and the PS squad eligibility have changed slightly from the previous CBA to the current one making it even more confusing. Throw in the fact that there have been instances in the past in which players who appeared to not be eligible at first glance wind up on the PS, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Ratliff was PS eligible. There's always been a debate as to whether the PS rules focus on the 53 man or 45 when the CBA refers to "active" but in the past it appears that it refers to being game day active and not simply being on the 53.
Section 4. Eligibility:(a) The Practice Squad shall consist of the following players, provided thatthey have not served more than two previous seasons on a Practice Squad: (i) playerswho do not have an Accrued Season of NFL experience; and (ii) free agent players whowere on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games during their only AccruedSeason(s) . An otherwise eligible player may be a Practice Squad player for a thirdseason only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on itsActive/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment.(b) A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a seasonif he has passed the club's physical and been a member of the club's Practice Squad forat least three regular season or postseason games during his first two Practice Squadseasons, and for at least one regular season or postseason game during his third PracticeSquad season. (For purposes of this Section, a bye week counts as a game provided thatthe player is not terminated until after the regular season or postseason weekend in question.)Section 5. Active List: If a player on the Practice Squad of one club (Club A) signs anNFL Player Contract with another club (Club B), (1) the player shall receive three weekssalary of his NFL Player Contract at the 53-player Active/Inactive List minimum even ifhe is terminated by Club B prior to earning that amount, and (2) Club B is required tocount the player on its 53-player Active/Inactive List for three games (a bye week countsas a game) even if he is terminated, traded, or assigned via waivers to another club or issigned as a free agent to another club's 53-player roster or another club's Practice Squadprior to that time. If the player is terminated from Club B's 53-player roster and signedto Club B's Practice Squad, he shall continue to count on the club's 53-player Active/Inactive List but shall not count against the eight-player Practice Squad limit untilthe three-game requirement has been fulfilled. If a player is terminated prior to the completionof the three-game period and is signed to Club B's Practice Squad or is signed orassigned to another Club's 53-player roster or Practice Squad, any Salary (as that term isdefined in Article 13, Section 4 that he receives from any NFL club applicable to thethree-game period shall be an offset against the three weeks' Salary that he is entided toreceive from Club B. If the promotion occurs with fewer than three games remaining inthe Club's regular season, the three game requirement for roster count shall not carryover into the next season.Section 6. Contagious Disease Addendum:(a) All Practice Squad players will execute an addendum to the PracticePlayer Contract relating to the Contagious Disease Policy (as set forth in Appendix J).1 6 1(b) If a player is elevated from Practice Squad to the 53-player Active/Inactive List for a game because a club was given roster exemptions due toconfirmed or suspected cases of a contagious disease among its players, then the termsof the addendum in that Player's Practice Player Contract will be in effect. A PracticeSquad player who is elevated to the 53-player Active/Inactive List under these circumstanceswill not be required to sign an NFL Player Contract for that game.(c) Any player who is elevated from the Practice Squad to the affected club's53-player Active/Inactive List for the game will be paid 1 /1 7th of the Paragraph 5 minimumsalary for Active/Inactive List players with the same number of credited seasons.Any games for which a player is elevated in this manner to the 53-player Active/InactiveList would count for purposes of earning a Credited Season for both minimum salaryand pension credit and an Accrued Season for purposes o f free agency, even thoughplayer is playing under the aforementioned addendum to his Practice Player Contract.(d) At the conclusion of the club's game, any player who was elevated fromthe Practice Squad to the affected club's 53-player Active/Inactive List for the game willautomatically revert to the club's Practice Squad roster without going through waivers.(e) In the event a Practice Squad player: (1) sustains a football-related injury(either in a practice prior to the game or in the game itself) after being elevated to the 53-player Active/Inactive List under the circumstances described in Subsection (b) above,and (2) is physically unable to practice or play for the Club due to the injury, then theplayer'S weekly compensation specified in Paragraph 4 of the Practice Squad Player Contractwill be adjusted to 1 / 17th of the Paragraph 5 minimum salary for players not on aClub's Active/Inactive List (i.e., the "down" amount) with the same number of CreditedSeasons. Such a player shall receive this weekly "salary continuation" for so long as heremains physically unable to perform the services required of him because of such injury.Once the Practice Squad player is physically able to perform the services required of himby his Practice Squad Player Contract, then his salary will be adjusted to the amount setforth in Paragraph 4 ("Compensation") of that contract for the period of time he remainson the club's Practice Squad.(f) If a Practice Squad player sustains a football-related injury during thegame in which he was elevated (or during a practice after being elevated but prior to thegame) and is subsequently placed on Reserve/Injured, then he will be paid (for so longas he remains physically unable to perform the services required of him because of suchinjury) the prorated portion of the Paragraph 5 minimum salary for players not on aClub's Active/Inactive List (i.e., the "down" amount) with the same number of CreditedSeasons. A Practice Squad player, who is placed on Reserve/Injured under these circumstances,must be signed by his Club to an NFL Player Contract at the time he isplaced on that reserve list category.(g) If a player receives salary under the circumstances set forth in Subsections(e) or (f) above, then those games shall count toward a Credited Season under theBert Bell/Pete Rozelle NFL Player Retirement Plan.(h) If a Club chooses to add the Practice Squad player to its 53-player Active/Inactive List following the game in which exemptions were granted and the playerwas elevated, then the Club must follow all of the established procedures for signing a1 62Practice Squad player to an NFL Player Contract (including making room for that playeron club's 53-player Active/Inactive List) .G) Use of these procedures by any Club in any week of the regular or postseasonshall be in the sole discretion of the Club subject only to prior approval of theCommissioner and after a showing of confirmed or suspected contagious disease amongits players. The NFLP A and its Medical Director shall be informed when such proceduresare invoked.
I dont care frankily. 3rd string QBs rarely make it into games. Once the back up comes in...it really becomes a running offense/short passes to limit the possibility of another injury. Just so glad that turd Jordan Jefferson never made it past a day or so.Whatever happened to "mah sources" guy saying Jefferson was going to dog us and make us look like fools.