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Illuminator is a good poster. He sticks to his guns and makes good points. Some don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t like that.
Quote from: dbucfan on July 22, 2012, 07:54:01 PMtelling business owners they didn't build their businesses.He never said such a thing
telling business owners they didn't build their businesses.
Quote from: Biggs3535 on July 22, 2012, 07:43:39 PMQuote from: TBTrojan on July 22, 2012, 07:31:55 PMThat 2nd video is no come back on what he actually said, it's like the haulage guy on there, did he build all the roads, pump and process all the fuel, build his trucks from the raw materials found in nature, no he had a helping hand with those things.So why haven't all of the "haulage guys" that have ever existed been successful?Doesn't matter.
Quote from: TBTrojan on July 22, 2012, 07:31:55 PMThat 2nd video is no come back on what he actually said, it's like the haulage guy on there, did he build all the roads, pump and process all the fuel, build his trucks from the raw materials found in nature, no he had a helping hand with those things.So why haven't all of the "haulage guys" that have ever existed been successful?
That 2nd video is no come back on what he actually said, it's like the haulage guy on there, did he build all the roads, pump and process all the fuel, build his trucks from the raw materials found in nature, no he had a helping hand with those things.
“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.The point is, when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires."Nothing wrong with what Obama said, I don't like the guy but when taken in context it's true.
Nice get.
It would be easier to explain if Obama did not refer to Private Enterprise as "the enemy" in his "memoir," or such remarks as "sharing the wealth around" to Joe the Plumber. It just compiles to a state of mind and statements like this simply reinforce it.
Quote from: spartan on July 23, 2012, 11:18:20 AMIt would be easier to explain if Obama did not refer to Private Enterprise as "the enemy" in his "memoir," or such remarks as "sharing the wealth around" to Joe the Plumber. It just compiles to a state of mind and statements like this simply reinforce it.That's not exactly what he said in his memoir. You can pull the exact quote yourself.And our tax system has been spreading the wealth for a long time.Back to ignoring the political threads. They're very predictable.
Apparently, we should be more grateful that they allow us to use the infrastructure our money paid for. Quite generous of the government. I feel I owe them even more now.
You were simply too smart for me.
It's as if many have forgotten that the pomise upon formation of this country was LIMITED government.
Not much different than what Romney said in 2002...