The Official 2012 Presidential Election Obama v. Romney Thread

[Morgan]

And at the DNC...what are they going to talk about? Obama will blame Bush and the GOP for everything and try to tell us about why America needs socialism. Joe Biden will make a gaffe and the media will ignore it. And Sandra Fluke will tell us how America hates women because taxpayers won't pay for her birth control.

Should be a fun week of finger-pointing, race-baiting, demagoguery, and no talk of how to solve the country's problems.

You'll see this promoted by the DNC - when Pres Obama took offfice, things looked bleak, and things turned around with the stimulus program.
BTW, Americans aren't paying for birth control, it would be the person paying the healthcare premium.

[Durango 95]

Condi gave a "meh" endorsement of Romney and Ryan. I was at the RNC and watched her speech again and didn't hear a glowing endorsement.

You must have missed it.



take a second look - you clearly have time.

This this idiot advocates bombing more countries.
Useless warmonger.

[dbucfan]

And at the DNC...what are they going to talk about? Obama will blame Bush and the GOP for everything and try to tell us about why America needs socialism. Joe Biden will make a gaffe and the media will ignore it. And Sandra Fluke will tell us how America hates women because taxpayers won't pay for her birth control.

Should be a fun week of finger-pointing, race-baiting, demagoguery, and no talk of how to solve the country's problems.

Well given today's announcement that things are worse than they were 4 years ago it would see we will listen to how it is all Bush's fault.  Still.  Somehow he has managed to keep things from happening between a Democratic congress for two years, as well as precluded effective discussions between dem and gop.  Will be interesting to see if we get an explanation about the efforts from Barry's Blue Ribbon Bi-partisan panel on what economic steps were needed to improve the economy.  That is still in a drawer somewhere - who knows it might come out this week.... 

[chace1986]

And at the DNC...what are they going to talk about? Obama will blame Bush and the GOP for everything and try to tell us about why America needs socialism. Joe Biden will make a gaffe and the media will ignore it. And Sandra Fluke will tell us how America hates women because taxpayers won't pay for her birth control.

Should be a fun week of finger-pointing, race-baiting, demagoguery, and no talk of how to solve the country's problems.

Well given today's announcement that things are worse than they were 4 years ago it would see we will listen to how it is all Bush's fault.  Still.  Somehow he has managed to keep things from happening between a Democratic congress for two years, as well as precluded effective discussions between dem and gop.  Will be interesting to see if we get an explanation about the efforts from Barry's Blue Ribbon Bi-partisan panel on what economic steps were needed to improve the economy.  That is still in a drawer somewhere - who knows it might come out this week....

No explanation is needed from him to win this election. Like it or not, I really don't see any way that this election will be close. The Romney/Ryan ticket is *yawn*. Also, I feel now more than ever, that the Republican party is out of touch with the majority of Americans. The tea party fundamentalists have certainly helped with that.

Barry could come out in the first debate, look into the camera and state that all of the right's fears about him are true. "Yes, I am a Muslim.", "Yes, I do want to take your guns", "Yes, I do want abortion kiosks in malls and abortion mini clinics at the front of every Wal-Mart in the country", "Yes, I will put the needs of all races ahead of the whiteys"...etc. He could do all this and would still win in November. 

[Morgan]

The election is going to be very close, coming down to one or two states.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map

[spartan]

Obama doesn't lack the ability to lead in a bipartisan fashion.

Just the desire.

[spartan]

Condi gave a "meh" endorsement of Romney and Ryan. I was at the RNC and watched her speech again and didn't hear a glowing endorsement.

You were AT the RNC? Really?

That's interesting as only delegates and Official Republican Volunteers were the only people allowed to get tickets. Which group did you belong to?

[spartan]

Also, I feel now more than ever, that the Republican party is out of touch with the majority of Americans. The tea party fundamentalists have certainly helped with that.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

Without getting into the stats of how many Americans consider themselves pro-life, or social conservative, fiscally conservative etc, I will instead put it this way. In 2010 the Republicans did extraordinarily well in both the House and Senate elections. Many, if not most were allegedly driven by Tea Party supporters. So how can someone who got the most amount of votes and won the most number of seats "be out of touch with the majority of Americans." If that was true, 2010 wouldn't have happened would it?

It's like when Prezbo and Democrats call anything a Republican says or does "extreme." If most people agree with them, how can it be "extreme?"

[chace1986]

Also, I feel now more than ever, that the Republican party is out of touch with the majority of Americans. The tea party fundamentalists have certainly helped with that.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

No sh*t....it's a personal opinion.

[Morgan]

Condi gave a "meh" endorsement of Romney and Ryan. I was at the RNC and watched her speech again and didn't hear a glowing endorsement.

You were AT the RNC? Really?

That's interesting as only delegates and Official Republican Volunteers were the only people allowed to get tickets. Which group did you belong to?

Friend of a friend who works for RNC got me in. One of those once-in-a- lifetime experiences, I guess. I was up in the rafters, though. There were a lot of people in the stands that weren't delegates or volunteers.

[spartan]

Condi gave a "meh" endorsement of Romney and Ryan. I was at the RNC and watched her speech again and didn't hear a glowing endorsement.

You were AT the RNC? Really?

That's interesting as only delegates and Official Republican Volunteers were the only people allowed to get tickets. Which group did you belong to?

Friend of a friend who works for RNC got me in. One of those once-in-a- lifetime experiences, I guess. I was up in the rafters, though. There were a lot of people in the stands that weren't delegates or volunteers.

Ok, cool, I was hovering waiting to pounce

Just goes to show shouldn't jump to conclusions.

[spartan]

Also, I feel now more than ever, that the Republican party is out of touch with the majority of Americans. The tea party fundamentalists have certainly helped with that.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

No sh*t....it's a personal opinion.

And I was demonstrating that at best it is a dubious one. Assuming of course you like to base your opinion on as many facts as possible, rather than like some who form the opinion and then search for the facts to support it.

[dbucfan]

Barry could come out in the first debate, look into the camera and state that all of the right's fears about him are true. "Yes, I am a Muslim.", "Yes, I do want to take your guns", "Yes, I do want abortion kiosks in malls and abortion mini clinics at the front of every Wal-Mart in the country", "Yes, I will put the needs of all races ahead of the whiteys"...etc. He could do all this and would still win in November.

Probably not chace - but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and a vote in the resolving the matter.  We will see.

[Morgan]

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[chace1986]

Barry could come out in the first debate, look into the camera and state that all of the right's fears about him are true. "Yes, I am a Muslim.", "Yes, I do want to take your guns", "Yes, I do want abortion kiosks in malls and abortion mini clinics at the front of every Wal-Mart in the country", "Yes, I will put the needs of all races ahead of the whiteys"...etc. He could do all this and would still win in November.

Probably not chace - but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and a vote in the resolving the matter.  We will see.

For the most part....I was being facetious...my opinion remains true. I personally don't think it will be close....and I'm not even a Barry supporter.