The Official 2012 Presidential Election Obama v. Romney Thread

[Chief Joseph]

If you think about it, there are two parts to lying well. The first part is telling the lie itself. Does it sound believable? Does it appeal to the emotion of the listener so that they want to believe it?

The second part is having the wisdom to know what to lie about to avoid getting caught. Is it a matter of fact or opinion? (Subjective or objective?) Is the truth likely to be uncovered? Can it be couched in language that makes the intent of deception unclear?

The first part Obama is good at. The second part not so much. But Bill Clinton, now there was a liar.

[tripblood]

Ill take Bill Clinton over Bush, Bush JR and Reagan.

[Biggs3535]

What are your standards for that?

CBW is a big (Anthony) Weiner fan, so I know how much he values honor and integrity.

link?

Really, you going to try to run from supporting Weiner?  Okeedokee...

I'm his supporter, and I wasn't hurt. I'd be more hurt if he voted with the conservatives in their efforts to bust unions, dismantle the middle class, and eliminate the tax burden for billionaires. Since he doesn't do those things, his actions haven't hurt me. His wife and family can deal with this on their own. They don't need me, or you for that matter, to be their advocate. He broke no laws. This is a non issue as far as I'm concerned.

I expect them to do the job I sent them there to do. I'm not the morality police, and neither are you. I'm not looking to elect Dudley Doo-Right. I'm looking to elect people who will legislate on my behalf. If he didn't break any laws, I fail to see how this is anything more than a personal indiscretion.

If there was a candidate that I knew would repeal Gramm-Leach-Bliley, NAFTA, GATT, end tax loopholes for companies that offshore, raise the top end tax rate, and implement a public insurance option, I could care less if he/she was a former stripper/gay prostitute that was addicted to midget porn, I'd vote for them.

[Chief Joseph]

Can you arrange an internet boom to come along with him?

'Cause otherwise...

[Chief Joseph]

Yep, looks like he's all about the Weiner.

[CBWx2]

If you think about it, there are two parts to lying well. The first part is telling the lie itself. Does it sound believable? Does it appeal to the emotion of the listener so that they want to believe it?

The second part is having the wisdom to know what to lie about to avoid getting caught. Is it a matter of fact or opinion? (Subjective or objective?) Is the truth likely to be uncovered? Can it be couched in language that makes the intent of deception unclear?

The first part Obama is good at. The second part not so much. But Bill Clinton, now there was a liar.

What about Bush and Romney? Where do they rate?

[CBWx2]

What are your standards for that?

CBW is a big (Anthony) Weiner fan, so I know how much he values honor and integrity.

link?

Really, you going to try to run from supporting Weiner?  Okeedokee...

I'm his supporter, and I wasn't hurt. I'd be more hurt if he voted with the conservatives in their efforts to bust unions, dismantle the middle class, and eliminate the tax burden for billionaires. Since he doesn't do those things, his actions haven't hurt me. His wife and family can deal with this on their own. They don't need me, or you for that matter, to be their advocate. He broke no laws. This is a non issue as far as I'm concerned.

I expect them to do the job I sent them there to do. I'm not the morality police, and neither are you. I'm not looking to elect Dudley Doo-Right. I'm looking to elect people who will legislate on my behalf. If he didn't break any laws, I fail to see how this is anything more than a personal indiscretion.

If there was a candidate that I knew would repeal Gramm-Leach-Bliley, NAFTA, GATT, end tax loopholes for companies that offshore, raise the top end tax rate, and implement a public insurance option, I could care less if he/she was a former stripper/gay prostitute that was addicted to midget porn, I'd vote for them.

Where does it suggest I am a Weiner fan, and not merely someone who supports a politician that shares my political ideology regardless of their personal indiscretions? I think my position was pretty clear, and pretty clearly out of the box that you are trying to put them in.

[Morgan]

Ill take Bill Clinton over Bush, Bush JR and Reagan.

explains why not everyone should be allowed to vote - there ought to be an IQ test to filter this kind of moron out of the voting pool

[tripblood]

Ill take Bill Clinton over Bush, Bush JR and Reagan.

explains why not everyone should be allowed to vote - there ought to be an IQ test to filter this kind of moron out of the voting pool

Narcissism is a crucial part of you're act

[GameTime]

How long is it going to take to realize both major parties are the same , and they are playing us all ?

til the end of time.

[Dolorous Jason]

Where does it suggest I am a Weiner fan, and not merely someone who supports a politician that shares my political ideology regardless of their personal indiscretions? I think my position was pretty clear, and pretty clearly out of the box that you are trying to put them in.

You asked for a link.  It was provided .  Now you are trying to weasel out of your obvious Weiner support with a pathetic semantics argument.


Classic CBW.

[Bayfisher]

What are your standards for that? Obama lies very well, he actually seems to believe his own BS while he's saying it. It's the facts that keep tripping him up.

Romney lied 27 times in 38 minutes of debate commentary. I know all politicians lie, but just under a lie a minute is quite a feat for any politician.

What are your standards for that?

CBW is a big (Anthony) Weiner fan, so I know how much he values honor and integrity.

link?

[Biggs3535]

What are your standards for that?

CBW is a big (Anthony) Weiner fan, so I know how much he values honor and integrity.

link?

Really, you going to try to run from supporting Weiner?  Okeedokee...

I'm his supporter, and I wasn't hurt. I'd be more hurt if he voted with the conservatives in their efforts to bust unions, dismantle the middle class, and eliminate the tax burden for billionaires. Since he doesn't do those things, his actions haven't hurt me. His wife and family can deal with this on their own. They don't need me, or you for that matter, to be their advocate. He broke no laws. This is a non issue as far as I'm concerned.

I expect them to do the job I sent them there to do. I'm not the morality police, and neither are you. I'm not looking to elect Dudley Doo-Right. I'm looking to elect people who will legislate on my behalf. If he didn't break any laws, I fail to see how this is anything more than a personal indiscretion.

If there was a candidate that I knew would repeal Gramm-Leach-Bliley, NAFTA, GATT, end tax loopholes for companies that offshore, raise the top end tax rate, and implement a public insurance option, I could care less if he/she was a former stripper/gay prostitute that was addicted to midget porn, I'd vote for them.

Where does it suggest I am a Weiner fan, and not merely someone who supports a politician that shares my political ideology regardless of their personal indiscretions? I think my position was pretty clear, and pretty clearly out of the box that you are trying to put them in.

You cannot be serious.  I mean, I've seen liberals run from their hypocrisy before, but you cannot be serious.

[Morgan]

Narcissism is a crucial part of you're act

Do you know the difference between your and you're?

[Dolorous Jason]

How long is it going to take to realize both major parties are the same , and they are playing us all ?

til the end of time.

No , not the end of time , because if we don't wake the hell up we will eventually destroy ourselves like every supposed "democracy" since ancient Athens.

Disclaimer: I realize we are not technically a true centralized democracy , but 98% of Americans think and are brainwashed in government schools that we are. Welcome to the self-fufilling prophecy , where 50% + 1 can enslave and bankrupt the rest of us , who live 1,000's of miles away , because of thier utter stupidity.