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« #30 : August 25, 2012, 09:46:44 PM »
Quote from: The Anti-Java on August 25, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
I am his biggest fan, but starting to get worried here.  Does he flip the switch when the reg season starts?   Hope so.

Pretty much.
Quote from: jerseybucsfan on December 10, 2012, 12:32:48 AM
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #31 : August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM »
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

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« #32 : August 25, 2012, 09:58:08 PM »
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

Take away the 3 passes to VJax...and it was as awful as it gets, man.
Quote from: jerseybucsfan on December 10, 2012, 12:32:48 AM
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #33 : August 25, 2012, 10:03:08 PM »
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

I pretty much feel the same....and I think....I have no facts....that coaches are telling Freeman not to Run during preseason games..and IMO he plays his best football when he has the option to run..

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« #34 : August 25, 2012, 10:07:39 PM »
Quote from: chace1986 on August 25, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

Take away the 3 passes to VJax...and it was as awful as it gets, man.
why would you take those away? they were his best throws.

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« #35 : August 25, 2012, 10:52:08 PM »
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Quote from: chace1986 on August 25, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

Take away the 3 passes to VJax...and it was as awful as it gets, man.
why would you take those away? they were his best throws.

Cause they were all on the first drive...meaning he can't give any kind of consistency when it comes to accuracy.
Quote from: jerseybucsfan on December 10, 2012, 12:32:48 AM
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #36 : August 25, 2012, 10:59:39 PM »
He was hot on the first drive(s) and shaky the rest of the way. It's psychological w/ him.

He needs to develop comfort in the system and confidence in himself.

Can he do it......? I guess we're going to find out..

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« #37 : August 26, 2012, 11:06:03 AM »
It's pre-season... relax.

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« #38 : August 26, 2012, 11:55:06 AM »
Quote from: TBayXXXVII on August 26, 2012, 11:06:03 AM
It's pre-season... relax.
Some of them can't.. some (like Trae) are rooting for Freeman to fail.

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« #39 : August 26, 2012, 12:02:00 PM »
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

How is it not as bad as people are making it out to be?

Barely any of those throws past the first drive were even catchable.

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« #40 : August 26, 2012, 12:16:20 PM »
Quote from: taqibalib on August 26, 2012, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

How is it not as bad as people are making it out to be?

Barely any of those throws past the first drive were even catchable.

I honestly dont know how people can look at any of those throws, after the first drive, and not be concerned.
Quote from: jerseybucsfan on December 10, 2012, 12:32:48 AM
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #41 : August 26, 2012, 12:17:54 PM »
Quote from: chace1986 on August 25, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

Take away the 3 passes to VJax...and it was as awful as it gets, man.

Typical Bucs fan logic.

Take away 2010 and...

There may be reason to be very concerned. But not yet...

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« #42 : August 26, 2012, 12:23:22 PM »
Quote from: ufojoe on August 26, 2012, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: chace1986 on August 25, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

Take away the 3 passes to VJax...and it was as awful as it gets, man.

Typical Bucs fan logic.

Take away 2010 and...

There may be reason to be very concerned. But not yet...
isn't that the same logic jdub used when he said take away those 3 big runs by Chris Johnson and our defense rid a great job containing him?

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« #43 : August 26, 2012, 12:24:33 PM »
Quote from: ufojoe on August 26, 2012, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: chace1986 on August 25, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: BucBalla85 on August 25, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with how he's played the preseason but he hasn't been as awful as some make it out to be. I'm going to wait until reg season and see where this offense is before I make up my mind.

Take away the 3 passes to VJax...and it was as awful as it gets, man.

Typical Bucs fan logic.

Take away 2010 and...

There may be reason to be very concerned. But not yet...


Don't try and lump me in with people who discount the 2010 season.

The fact that he could not sustain any sort of accuracy past the first drive should be a concern...especially given that he has looked this way every since the end of the 2010 season.

I'm not saying that we should cut bait on Freeman right now...but this is the defining year.

I don't see why that is frowned upon.
Quote from: jerseybucsfan on December 10, 2012, 12:32:48 AM
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #44 : August 26, 2012, 12:40:31 PM »
Quote from: TBayXXXVII on August 26, 2012, 11:06:03 AM
It's pre-season... relax.

tried that last preseason..... it didn't work!!
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