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#120 : September 13, 2012, 04:06:50 PM

Running back by committee keeps your players fresh for 4 quarters -keeps 2-3 players (RBs) involved in the offense, and doesn't overwork a single player.  Guess it does affect the rhythm of the offense, though.

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#121 : September 13, 2012, 04:09:39 PM

Just an interesting fact to know for those who think we should have one predominant back -
Packers offense has gone 28 regular season games without a 100-yard rusher (Brandon Jackson - Week 5, 2010).

It would be a little more interesting if their QB wasnt Aaron Rodgers.

Grant and Starks had almost identical number of carries (130s) and nearly the same total yardage. RB by committee works - NYG did the same.

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#122 : September 13, 2012, 04:18:12 PM

I think we will still have a RB by committee. Blount was starting to get carries until he got that stinger.

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#123 : September 13, 2012, 05:13:57 PM

Martin is the bomb, he is a baller

Yes he is, but can he last 16 games. I hope we don't run him into the ground. Gotta share the workload between 2-3 RBs.

So now it's 2 or 3? C'mon man. Most offenses run the ball about 20 - 24 times a game. If this was a normal offense Martin could be the feature back and get all the carries. In Schiano's run heavey offense we will likely aim for 30 carries a game and often go over 30....so there should be a quality back to take 8-10 carries a game. Two is plenty though. We don't need to be splitting it three ways. The 3rd back is purely for depth and special teams.
Only one player in 2011 averaged more than 19 carries per game. (His team went 5-11.) The average "featured" back averages 16-17 carries per game.

Arian Foster had 21.4 carries a game. The Texans didn't go 5-11.  ::)

Seriously though, just looking at the yearly average is misleading. The top 12 backs all averaged 17+ carries per game, but some games you get behind and your feature back may only gets 10 carries. Or in some cases they might miss time due to injury. In a 16 game season, missing one game can bring you average down quickly, but if you go back and look at the top 15 running backs and look at each individually, you'll see that in games where they either lead or are close...top feature backs usually get 20+ carries a game. Look at Marshawn Lynch and Ray Rice for examples. They each had two or three games where they had less than 10 carries, but the vast majority of games they were around 25 carries per game...which made them both average 18 carries per game on the year.

You don't always get to dictate how many carries your feature back gets, but when you do it should be around 22 per game....if your feature back is truly a feature back.
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#124 : September 13, 2012, 05:29:46 PM


"Boy oh boy, this message board is popular with morons and the fools dumb enough to participate in their games."

How ironical. I'm assuming you must mean all of the other participants besides yourself.

Jackass.





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#125 : September 13, 2012, 05:38:31 PM

You've never seen backs shut down on the goal line before?  Weird.

Many times.   But not like that.   He was literally knocked back like a rag doll by a hit by the backer.    I've never seen a back get his butt whipped so badly on the goal line and I've been watching the NFL since 1973.   Warrick Dunn was small, but when he was hit, he seemed to be tougher than that.   They couldn't blast Dunn backwards like that with a single hit at the goal line.
You can see it regularly if you watch the Ravens or Steelers. 

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#126 : September 13, 2012, 05:51:39 PM

You've never seen backs shut down on the goal line before?  Weird.

Many times.   But not like that.   He was literally knocked back like a rag doll by a hit by the backer.    I've never seen a back get his butt whipped so badly on the goal line and I've been watching the NFL since 1973.   Warrick Dunn was small, but when he was hit, he seemed to be tougher than that.   They couldn't blast Dunn backwards like that with a single hit at the goal line.
You can see it regularly if you watch the Ravens or Steelers.

I love watching the Ravens and Steelers D. Big hits and all. Reminds me of our better days. Hopefully our D is headed in that direction.

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#127 : September 13, 2012, 06:00:01 PM

Just an interesting fact to know for those who think we should have one predominant back -
Packers offense has gone 28 regular season games without a 100-yard rusher (Brandon Jackson - Week 5, 2010).

It would be a little more interesting if their QB wasnt Aaron Rodgers.

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#128 : September 13, 2012, 06:09:01 PM

Warrick Dunn is a horrible example to try and prove your lame argument. Warrick was a master at lifting his feet off the ground and crunching up into the fetus position at the exact moment of impact so that he would just bounce off the tackle and then keep going.


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#129 : September 13, 2012, 06:10:48 PM

lol@Morgan. Looking at teams with top 5 elite QBs for running back stats. That's a great idea.


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#130 : September 13, 2012, 06:21:54 PM

lol@Morgan. Looking at teams with top 5 elite QBs for running back stats. That's a great idea.
especially in today's NFL

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#131 : September 13, 2012, 06:24:08 PM

Martin is the bomb, he is a baller

Yes he is, but can he last 16 games. I hope we don't run him into the ground. Gotta share the workload between 2-3 RBs.

So now it's 2 or 3? C'mon man. Most offenses run the ball about 20 - 24 times a game. If this was a normal offense Martin could be the feature back and get all the carries. In Schiano's run heavey offense we will likely aim for 30 carries a game and often go over 30....so there should be a quality back to take 8-10 carries a game. Two is plenty though. We don't need to be splitting it three ways. The 3rd back is purely for depth and special teams.
Only one player in 2011 averaged more than 19 carries per game. (His team went 5-11.) The average "featured" back averages 16-17 carries per game.

Arian Foster had 21.4 carries a game. The Texans didn't go 5-11.  ::)

Seriously though, just looking at the yearly average is misleading. The top 12 backs all averaged 17+ carries per game, but some games you get behind and your feature back may only gets 10 carries. Or in some cases they might miss time due to injury. In a 16 game season, missing one game can bring you average down quickly, but if you go back and look at the top 15 running backs and look at each individually, you'll see that in games where they either lead or are close...top feature backs usually get 20+ carries a game. Look at Marshawn Lynch and Ray Rice for examples. They each had two or three games where they had less than 10 carries, but the vast majority of games they were around 25 carries per game...which made them both average 18 carries per game on the year.

You don't always get to dictate how many carries your feature back gets, but when you do it should be around 22 per game....if your feature back is truly a feature back.

and ..... drum roll please .... Blount was apparently injured to some extent .... and ..... another drum roll .... we were running out the clock with a lead ...... and ...... (no drum roll) it was 1 FRIGGIN' game, we have no average yet.
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