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« #15 : September 18, 2012, 11:49:53 AM »

Says all we need to know about Underwood..

The fact that New England cut him twice should have done that already.  The guy just isn't an NFL receiver.  If Schiano thought he could be, he'd never have cut him in the first place.

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« #16 : September 18, 2012, 11:53:12 AM »

So apparently Shipley has been re-signed


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« #17 : September 18, 2012, 11:54:52 AM »


Bucs re-signed WR Jordan Shipley.

Source Rotoworld

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« #18 : September 18, 2012, 12:02:07 PM »

Mah sources were right!


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« #19 : September 18, 2012, 12:03:14 PM »

http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-1/Shipley-Sails-Back-into-Town/caed059d-3a0a-4922-bf48-399a3197bcef

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« #20 : September 18, 2012, 12:29:59 PM »

Hardman released

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« #21 : September 18, 2012, 12:36:58 PM »

Ok well lets hope he does better this go around. Would love to see him as our # 3. Lord knows Benn isnt stepping up for that job.

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« #22 : September 18, 2012, 12:45:11 PM »

Good , Parker is a garbage can anyways.

I'm not crazy about him either.

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« #23 : September 18, 2012, 12:49:03 PM »

Parker and Benn both need to be replaced.
I guess the guys sources were right on money.
Now on to the Cowpukes.

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« #24 : September 18, 2012, 01:00:32 PM »

Nice heads up MP55. I still think Mr. Ego jumped the gun on Briscoe without seeing these WR's in live action. Hopefully Ship can make me forget Schiano's ego.

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« #25 : September 18, 2012, 01:22:35 PM »

It's not as if it will matter. Freeman just stares down Vjax, then if he's not open, he'll look to check down to whoever. Maybe he will pass to Mike WIlliams if he's the #1 read.

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« #26 : September 18, 2012, 01:50:53 PM »

Freeman just stares down Vjax, then if he's not open, he'll look to check down to whoever

Inaccurate at best.   He's going through reads...    A qb cannot turn his head to look at each read - a good DB would eat his lunch.

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« #27 : September 18, 2012, 02:47:25 PM »

Freeman just stares down Vjax, then if he's not open, he'll look to check down to whoever

Inaccurate at best.   He's going through reads...    A qb cannot turn his head to look at each read - a good DB would eat his lunch.

I watched the game again and only looked at Freeman's passes. There was only one case where he scanned the field, threw to VJax, and came away with a completion. In the majority of other passes to Jackson, there were no other patterns he could have possibly looked at from the way his head was situated. On the deep incompletion to Jackson in the first drive, if he looked off the safety to Jacksons direction and hit Mike Williams, that would have been a TD.

I obviously exaggerate about Freeman never making his progressions, he does, but good things rarely come out of that.

Mike Williams and Dallas Clark really need to get more separation though. Same with Parker. The few plays that Freeman scanned the field, none were even close to being open.

Also, they really have to use Stocker to exploit zones. I saw quite a few opportunities.

Most importantly though, Freeman has to run and really needs to learn how to use pump fakes.

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« #28 : September 18, 2012, 06:40:29 PM »

    Agree on Freeman running. He not only is GOOD at running, he seems to get more completions too. He is not (as yet) a precise enough passer to thread the needle when receivers are tightly covered, which as noted, they usually are. His running changes the coverage angles, plus DB's often will loosen their coverage to protect against Freeman running for 10-20 yards on them, which he is quite capable of. That's really my biggest criticism of our O so far...
    I get the sense Shipley may be a better all-round receiver than Parker. Parker may be a one-trick pony; good as a slot receiver, but ineffective/inconsistant in any other WR role...
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« #29 : September 19, 2012, 03:19:01 PM »

@PewterReport Schiano said Shipley brought in because of Stroughter foot injury as opposed to Parker injury as first thought.


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