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« : September 30, 2012, 01:13:19 PM »

Most of you guys being in Florida are probably unaware of the Scott Brown/ Elizabeth Warren Massahsetts senate race but since the race has been so close "nice guy" moderate Republican who is running for reelection has turned to negative campaigning against his Democrat opponent Harvard law professor Elizabeth Warren over her trying to falsely claim native American heritage in the past to benefit her career.  She cannot back up the claim.  Here is a link to everything you need to know about the facts:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-controversy-over-elizabeth-warrens-claimed-native-american-heritage/2012/09/27/d0b7f568-08a5-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html
I'm just curious if others feel this is a valid issue to be raising about a candidates character and honesty.


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« #1 : September 30, 2012, 01:19:08 PM »

Assuming she falsely represented a material fact about herself then she opened herself up to it.

I'm not sure if it is a material fact but I can see how people might think it is. We've all see attacks levied for much less.


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« #2 : September 30, 2012, 01:25:29 PM »

Her defense is to say she heard stories that her parents use to tell about their Cherokee ancestry but since this issue has been brought up and researched it looks as if there isn't any injun blood in her body.  She did claim it when applying for jobs at Univ. Of Penn and Harvard.


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« #3 : September 30, 2012, 01:27:07 PM »

Brown supporters have been heckling her with tomahawk chops recently.


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« #4 : September 30, 2012, 01:31:20 PM »

if you have nothing else to bring up, finding a inconsequential detail like Brown has is the best chance he has......it would be like Warren bringing this up.


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« #5 : September 30, 2012, 01:34:48 PM »

Her defense is to say she heard stories that her parents use to tell about their Cherokee ancestry but since this issue has been brought up and researched it looks as if there isn't any injun blood in her body.  She did claim it when applying for jobs at Univ. Of Penn and Harvard.

I think the answer comes in how she has answered the same question throughout her life. If she's been consistent in claiming native ancestry then its not a a purposeful false representation. But if this is a new ancestry  claim w/o anything to back it up you have to think her motivation's are dubious.

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« #6 : September 30, 2012, 01:36:11 PM »

Brown supporters have been heckling her with tomahawk chops recently.

That's really low.

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« #7 : September 30, 2012, 01:40:04 PM »

if you have nothing else to bring up, finding a inconsequential detail like Brown has is the best chance he has......it would be like Warren bringing this up.


That is not an analogy and would you mind taking that down.

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« #8 : September 30, 2012, 01:47:49 PM »

she's been claiming  it as her ancestry since at least the 80s Durango.


Morgan, would it be ethical for me to check off African American the next time I apply for a job?


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« #9 : September 30, 2012, 02:26:47 PM »

falsely claim native American heritage in the past to benefit her career.

This is just another reason to get rid of crap like this where people get a leg up simply based on their race/sex.  She should have been given the job if she was competent and qualified - and no other reason.


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« #10 : September 30, 2012, 02:33:19 PM »

falsely claim native American heritage in the past to benefit her career.

This is just another reason to get rid of crap like this where people get a leg up simply based on their race/sex.  She should have been given the job if she was competent and qualified - and no other reason.

That's all true except this is politics where qualifications and capabilities are generally disregarded.

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« #11 : September 30, 2012, 04:28:06 PM »

I think it is relevant in that she is running as a hot shot lawyer, defender of the downtrodden etc. Now it seems this hot shot lawyer persona was in part built on a web of lies and deceit. Regardless of what she says, you don't register that kind of thing at a place like Harvard without the thought of material gain. Add on to the fact she has a history of working against the working man and it builds a legitimate picture of yet another self interested lawyer looking after themselves.

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« #12 : September 30, 2012, 08:08:35 PM »

understanding positions in the private sector aren't elected officials is paramount to the posts on that topic

that said, a large percentage of politicians are indeed lawyers - here is an article outlining her and her husbands private sector employment - along with governmental appointments


Stick to your guns, Scott
By Howie Carr  |   Sunday, September 30, 2012  |  http://www.bostonherald.com  |  Columnists

Photo by Ryan Hutton
Don’t let up on the fake Indian, Scott.

Is she going to stop mentioning that you’re a Republican? Of course not. So why would you choose to unilaterally disarm?

They want you to be “gentler”? Ask your friend John McCain how gentle worked out for him.

Since she began checking the box, Granny Warren’s life is a testament to the truth of Sir Walter Scott’s immortal line: “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.”

She’s always backpedaling, covering up her tracks, trying to explain away some hole in last week’s explanation that has since been rendered inoperative by a new inconvenient truth.

You needn’t keep banging away on her fake-Indian problem. She keeps digging that hole deeper and deeper herself. This week’s TV spot about her parents’ so-called elopement — she’s throwing her own paternal grandparents under the bus as racists. Isn’t family lore great?

One thing I would bring up again is the $750,000 paycheck she and her husband collect from Harvard Law. That really hit home in Jon Keller’s debate. Everybody has high tuition bills to pay. People were talking about that revelation for days afterwards.

The no-interest $50,000 loan from Harvard also is worth revisiting. This is a woman who has led an incredibly privileged life, post-checking the box. For example, she and her daughter — the second-generation moonbat who got the state to send out voter-registration forms to all welfare recipients, including illegal aliens — wrote a book in 2005 entitled “All Your Worth: The Ultimate Lifetime Money Plan.”

Check out the Amazon reviews. Certain words recur: “simplistic” and “fairytale.” As one reader put it: “I doubt the authors have any real experience in the real world.”

I was surprised in the first debate that she didn’t mention her baby, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You should be ready for it, though, Scott. Just read the Wall Street Journal op-ed by a Texas congressman that ran Sept. 19.

A few highlights of the story: The CFPB budget is $447 million; about 60 percent of the 958 employees make over $100,000 a year; the director’s secretary gets $165,139; they print documents in 187 languages ... this is Granny’s greatest achievement, another out-of-control, do-nothing bureaucracy full of otherwise unemployable lawyers. And you can bet it’ll protect consumers just about as effectively as the SEC shielded investors from Bernie Madoff over the decades.

No need to ask her again to release her law school employment applications. She can’t, obviously, or her campaign is over. So hit her on yet another of her stonewalls — she won’t give up the list of millionaires and billionaires she’s been consulting for, even though she’s required to report them all to Harvard Law School.

As The Wall Street Journal said yesterday, voters need to know who else she’s been working for besides LTV Steel and Travelers Insurance so they “can decide for themselves if she’s really a handmaid to the plutocrats disguised as Robin Hood through November 6.”

One last thing: If she brings up Sen. Jim Inhofe again, tell her if she’s really worried about him she ought to think about running against him. In her home state of Oklahoma.

Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1061164120
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