is there any question who won the debate

[ufojoe]

A fruitbat and his dog may be preferable to Obama and Romney anyway.   Let them debate.

I agree.

My best friend is a fruit bat.

[ufojoe]

With regards to Johnson you have to have a certain percentage in the polls, otherwise every fruitbat and his dog would be eligible to debate.

Are you really that uninformed as to how the Ds and Rs control who gets into the debates and how they choose which
polls to look at?

The former two-term governor should be in the debates.

As has been noted before, the rules were changed when Perot put a scare into the two party duopoly in 1992.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Party_of_the_United_States_of_America#1996_presidential_election

Between 1992 and 1996, the Commission on Presidential Debates changed its rules regarding how candidates could qualify to participate in the presidential debates. As Perot had previously done very well in debates, it was a decisive blow to the campaign when the Commission ruled that he could not participate on basis of somewhat vague criteria — such as that a candidate was required to have already been endorsed by "a substantial number of major news organizations", with "substantial" being a number to be decided by the Commission on a case-by-case basis. Perot could not have qualified for the debates in 1992 under these rules, and was able to show that various famous US presidents would likewise have been excluded from modern debate by the Commission on Presidential Debates.[1]

Despite legal action by the Perot team, and an 80% majority of Americans supporting his participation in the debates, the Commission refused to budge and Perot was reduced to making his points heard via a series of half-hour "commercials". In the end, Perot and Choate won 8% of the vote.[1]

[GameTime]

Between 1992 and 1996, the Commission on Presidential Debates changed its rules regarding how candidates could qualify to participate in the presidential debates. As Perot had previously done very well in debates, it was a decisive blow to the campaign when the Commission ruled that he could not participate on basis of somewhat vague criteria — such as that a candidate was required to have already been endorsed by "a substantial number of major news organizations", with "substantial" being a number to be decided by the Commission on a case-by-case basis.

who is considered major news orgs?

[Dolorous Jason]

all I know is the electoral college needs to go.  What a asinine system.

Disagree, otherwise the candidates would campaign in Calfornia and New York and that would be it.

With regards to Johnson you have to have a certain percentage in the polls, otherwise every fruitbat and his dog would be eligible to debate.

...and if you aren't allowed a voice on the national stage , you'll never reach that percentage in the polls. Gotta love how the Dems and Reps have that set up huh ?

[Dolorous Jason]

"Are bats intelligent?

   Bats are intelligent and seem to be fast learners. In captivity, they usually cooperate well with their handlers and can even learn to come when called. They require enrichment in their environments, much like parrots or primates do. They may play with baby toys and look in mirrors, displaying great curiosity. Bats of other species may sometimes be kept together; due to the fact most are compatible.

   Each animal has a unique personality – some are shy, while others seem to enjoy being held by their handlers. It is widely speculated that bats do indeed learn to recognize the faces of certain people – such as veterinarians "
 http://batconservation.webs.com/batfacts.htm


Hmmm, sounds preferable to a donkey....