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#15 : October 27, 2012, 06:25:50 PM

My issue has nothing to do with the color of the dude's skin. It has everything to do with ideology, and the fact that he has forced an agenda down my throat that I want nothing to do with.
1. No one cares what your issue is. The poll was conducted to reflect any racial undertones of the election and you obviously disagree with the findings.
2. Obama never shoved anything down your throat. The majority of Americans voted him to represent them and you are obviously in the minority.

2 responses so far that totally ignore the poll findings...

At least half of Americans wanted nothing to do with Obamacare. And I would suspect that you will see evidence of that on November 6.

Furthermore, I suspect that the last election had more to do with people not liking the McCain/Palin ticket. Not even I liked my choices last election.

And this is a forum where people post their opinions. I shared mine. You can **CENSORED** off

Edit: Oh, and **CENSORED** your poll.
lol...looks like more decades or centuries of racism on the menu but hey, we might have this deficit under control by them. lol

Republicans priority = 1.Economics...10.Social issues
Come nov. 6th, Obama will be re-elected presidents again b/c despite every effort by the right wing extremist media to employ negative propaganda against Obama, they now look like the bad guys while Obama emerges as the vicitim of the conservative attack dogs. Gotta love the stupidity of your kind. thanks for 4 more years.

The biggest issue we are facing? Our economy and a deficit that is on pace to be $24 trillion by 2022. We are currently adding $4 billion to the deficit daily. That's $200 billion in last 50 days. And Obamacare (which has been called a "fiscal disaster") hasn't been implemented yet. Here is to hoping the rest of America isn't as ignorant and brain dead as you are.
So when Obama gets re-elected, it will be because of brain dead americans?

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#16 : October 27, 2012, 06:34:39 PM

For the first time in this thread, you are correct.

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#17 : October 27, 2012, 06:35:23 PM

The race card didn't work so now we are onto trolling hypotheticals.

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#18 : October 27, 2012, 06:35:31 PM


Republicans priority = 1.Economics...10.Social issues
Come nov. 6th, Obama will be re-elected presidents again b/c despite every effort by the right wing extremist media to employ negative propaganda against Obama, they now look like the bad guys while Obama emerges as the vicitim of the conservative attack dogs. Gotta love the stupidity of your kind. thanks for 4 more years.

Extremist right wing media? Where would that be?

Talking about negative propaganda, Obama's campaign has been so insipid and disgusting he has well and truly poisoned the well of any partisanship for his next term should he get one.  I know many like me who did not have anything against him as a person, now  think he is a complete turd now.

Edit: Here is something to ponder over. Without economics you don't have social issues, at least no means to do anything about them.
: October 27, 2012, 06:38:16 PM spartan

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#19 : October 27, 2012, 06:50:47 PM


Republicans priority = 1.Economics...10.Social issues
Come nov. 6th, Obama will be re-elected presidents again b/c despite every effort by the right wing extremist media to employ negative propaganda against Obama, they now look like the bad guys while Obama emerges as the vicitim of the conservative attack dogs. Gotta love the stupidity of your kind. thanks for 4 more years.

Extremist right wing media? Where would that be?

Talking about negative propaganda, Obama's campaign has been so insipid and disgusting he has well and truly poisoned the well of any partisanship for his next term should he get one.
??? You sir have your head in the sand,

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The Romney campaign released a shockingly Orwellian commercial over the weekend, which perpetuates something Romney himself has been saying for months now. Honestly, there's a book-length analysis to be written here, but I'll keep it as brief as possible given the depth and breadth of what the Republicans have been able to accomplish on this front.
The new ad blames President Obama for not reaching out and working with congressional Republicans to get things done. Yes, really. It also ballyhoos Mitt Romney's claim that he was able to work with a Massachusetts legislature that was 85 percent Democratic.
I don't know whether to be brutally outraged about this or to congratulate the Republicans on an outstanding execution of political obstruction and subsequent projection. For now, let's go with brutally outraged.

It's important to review exactly what's led us to this point. From the very beginning, congressional Republicans fell into lockstep with Rush Limbaugh and the collective wish for the Obama presidency to fail. Limbaugh set the table several days before the inauguration by telling his audience:
So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.

The prevailing worry here was that America faced a worsening crisis, with a failing economy and a financial meltdown, and if liberal policies succeeded in resolving the crisis, liberalism would become further entrenched as the best means of stewarding the economy. Subsequently, if the president's center-left policies succeeded, he'd be re-elected and the Republicans would have to wait until 2016 for another stab at the White House.
The only way to prevent this eventuality was to stonewall the president's legislative agenda. All of it. Such an objective is nearly unprecedented. Usually an opposition party is driven to occasionally work with the majority party on the off-chance the majority party's legislation succeeds. This way, the opposition party can claim partial credit for the achievement. Not this time. Instead, the Republicans banked on their mighty bumper-sticker marketeering machine whereby, irrespective of Democratic successes, the Republicans would simply tell voters that those successes were actually failures and that it was President Obama who stubbornly refused to reach across the aisle. Up is down, white is black. Opposite Day politics. With the execution of this "everything has failed" strategy, they were freed up to vote against everything that came down the pike.

And so the Republicans proceeded to rack up the highest number of filibusters in American history. During the president's first two years in office, the 111th Congress, there were 137 cloture motions filed to end Republican filibusters. During the president's second two years, the 112th Congress, there were 109 motions filed to end Republican filibusters and we still have a few more months to go. 246 total cloture motions. Compare this to George W. Bush's first term when there were a total of 133 cloture motions filed. Not even a handful of "sensible" Republicans had the guts to break ranks and vote with the Democrats. Meanwhile, on the House side, the Republican majority has voted in near-lockstep against almost everything.

What bills have the Republicans filibustered? To name a few:

H.R. 12 - Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 - Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 - Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 - Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 - Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 1029 - Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 - Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R.5281 -- DREAM Act
S.3985 -- Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act
S.3816 -- Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
S.3369 -- A bill to provide for additional disclosure requirements for corporations, labor organizations, Super PACs and other entities
S.2237 -- Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act
S.2343 -- Stop the Student Loan Interest Rate Hike Act
S.1660 -- American Jobs Act of 2011
S.3457 -- Veterans Jobs Corps Act

What else?

Here's an astonishing one. The Republicans filibustered the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act -- basically, healthcare for 9/11 heroes. Every Republican senator voted to filibuster this bill. I suppose the Republicans are only interested in 9/11 heroes when they're used as political props.

On the House side, every single Republican, including Paul Ryan, voted against the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act, which forces Congress to pay for new legislation through either budget cuts or revenue increases.

You'd think that by helping to pass these bills, Republicans could boast a solid record on fiscal responsibility, job creation, veterans affairs, anti-terrorism, senior citizens and, hell, 9/11 workers. Instead, they blocked all of it. Jobs for military veterans, tax cuts for small businesses -- you name it. Why? So President Obama and the Democrats could be accused of failure.

And it's working.

Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell famously told the National Journal, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." Not economic growth, jobs, healthcare or military strength. A failed Obama presidency was the primary -- and I would argue the only goal of the last two Republican congresses.

The Romney campaign is busily playing the endgame on this strategy by projecting Republican obstructionism onto the president and accusing him of refusing to work with Congress, even though the president and the Democrats have dished out heaping piles of legislation that Republicans could reasonably get behind. Not only that, but the president has gone out of his way to incorporate Republican ideas into his major agenda items. The individual mandate is a Republican idea devised and supported by people like Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole and Chuck Grassley. The Affordable Care Act is more or less modeled after Mitt Romney's healthcare law in Massachusetts. Many marquee aspects of the ACA ("Obamacare") were jettisoned in an effort to gain Republican votes, including the public option. Cap-and-trade is a Republican idea. The president even sided with Republicans on extending the Bush tax cuts -- a move that angered many liberals, along with the signing of the NDAA.

But if you take Romney's word for it, the president is a lazy, do-nothing chief executive who's been stonewalling the Republicans. Not the other way around. I'm not sure how he doesn't pull a muscle or dislocate a shoulder by twisting himself into a pretzel like this, but it's an amazing feat of through-the-looking-glass deception. The reason Romney was able to get anything done in Massachusetts was because the Democrats in the state legislature weren't anywhere near as obstructionist as today's congressional Republicans. And, if he's elected, the only way Romney will be able to pursue his agenda is if the Democrats are less motivated to obstruct and filibuster than the Republicans.

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#20 : October 27, 2012, 06:52:51 PM

Have the republicans produces a plan in the last 4 yrs that the american public would consider? No but dont take my word for it...

Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell famously told the National Journal, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."


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#21 : October 27, 2012, 07:05:19 PM

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bob-woodwards-reporting-forces-scarborough-to-admit-republicans-tried-to-work-with-obama/

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#22 : October 27, 2012, 07:12:13 PM

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bob-woodwards-reporting-forces-scarborough-to-admit-republicans-tried-to-work-with-obama/
just give it up and admit that your leader Rush Limbo is a racist and has set the tone for the republicans for the next century. Don't take my word for it, just wait till Nov 6th.

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#23 : October 27, 2012, 07:20:00 PM


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#24 : October 27, 2012, 07:37:18 PM

Everyone chooses their own reality wreck ship.

As for Woodwards writings - you have made your determination which of course all are entitled to do in the USA - still.   

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#25 : October 27, 2012, 08:15:40 PM

So the white people that voted for the black candidate four years ago, but have since changed their mind are suddenly racist?  Interesting.

That must also make the 95+% of black people that voted for the white candidate racist as well.  Quality thread, race-baitors.


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#26 : October 27, 2012, 09:30:03 PM

this thread is like a campaign promo for Romney. Couldnt be a better example of Obama supporters alienating potential voters.  Claiming or suggesting that voting against Obama makes one a racist is . . . well . .  stupid

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#27 : October 27, 2012, 10:31:26 PM

Must be true - first time I have noted concurrency between Biggs and VinBucFan

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#28 : October 28, 2012, 09:46:05 AM

I find it humorous that 99% of blacks are voting for Obama , yet the story is that white people are racist...


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#29 : October 28, 2012, 01:21:14 PM

Quote from: Dolorous Jason link=topic=1300210.msg1792707#msg1792707 date=135143196u5
I find it humorous that 99% of blacks are voting for Obama , yet the story is that white people are racist...


of course you find it funny...just like some white people find racism funny.

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