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« #375 : December 31, 2012, 06:45:41 PM »
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Grimm was exceptional against the run in 2010.

And he wasn't a liability in coverage either.

possibly some of barrons liabilities might be scheme based?

I don't think so, he just played badly in that department for most of the games.  This was one of the reasons the team justified using a top ten pick on Safety, because he's good at both the run and in coverage.

Also, he finished the season playing pretty well in coverage.  The problem was the first three quarters of the season.  He'll be fine, I would guess, but I hate to see excuse-makers use excuses.  And Barron being a rookie is an excuse.

He also wasn't as dominant against the run as expected. Dude missed a lot of tackles.
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« #376 : December 31, 2012, 07:57:30 PM »
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Grimm was exceptional against the run in 2010.

And he wasn't a liability in coverage either.



I was big on Grimm, but what  the hell happened to him?  He has disappeared.  I know he had an injury of some sort, did it affect his game that much?

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« #377 : December 31, 2012, 08:00:44 PM »
Didn't he break his leg and come back playing hesitantly?

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« #378 : December 31, 2012, 08:41:36 PM »
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Grimm was exceptional against the run in 2010.

And he wasn't a liability in coverage either.

I was big on Grimm, but what  the hell happened to him?  He has disappeared.  I know he had an injury of some sort, did it affect his game that much?
Appears to have been the case.

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« #379 : December 31, 2012, 11:36:23 PM »
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Dolorus Jason and J Double have to be the biggest jokes on this board.

you must not be reading what some guy named samari posts.  pure comedy.
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« #380 : January 01, 2013, 08:06:38 AM »
Quote from: Feel Real Good on December 31, 2012, 08:41:36 PM
Quote from: The Anti-Java on December 31, 2012, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: Biggs3535 on December 31, 2012, 04:50:02 PM
Quote from: Feel Real Good on December 31, 2012, 03:13:14 PM
Grimm was exceptional against the run in 2010.

And he wasn't a liability in coverage either.

I was big on Grimm, but what  the hell happened to him?  He has disappeared.  I know he had an injury of some sort, did it affect his game that much?
Appears to have been the case.

Now THAT sounds like excuses. Bones do heal last I checked .

How about he just wasn't ever that good ?


This thread has become quite amusing , however. I'll be sure to save the "Barron is already a bust " and the " Cody Grimm is better than Mark Barron " comments for a future bump , lol.

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« #381 : January 01, 2013, 09:54:07 AM »
I don't know what happen to Grimm. I would guess that his downfall is related to his two injuries, but that is only a guess. Whatever the reason, it doesn't change how good he was as a rookie.

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« #382 : January 01, 2013, 10:09:11 AM »
Quote from: JDouble on January 01, 2013, 09:54:07 AM
I don't know what happen to Grimm. I would guess that his downfall is related to his two injuries, but that is only a guess. Whatever the reason, it doesn't change how good he was as a rookie.

Grimm certainly had a much better rookie year than Barron. No doubt about that.
Quote from: jerseybucsfan on December 10, 2012, 12:32:48 AM
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #383 : January 01, 2013, 10:13:41 AM »
possibly the defense wasnt as complicated for the safety in morris' scheme?
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« #384 : January 01, 2013, 10:27:44 AM »
Maybe. I think Grimm is just a very smart player with great instincts. He was just not a great athlete, and the two back to back injuries probably slowed him down to a point where his great football IQ and instincts can't compensate anymore.

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« #385 : January 01, 2013, 11:00:02 AM »
Quote from: GameTime on January 01, 2013, 10:13:41 AM
possibly the defense wasnt as complicated for the safety in morris' scheme?

Safety is much more simple in Tampa 2 than what we currently ask of our safeties. That's a fact.  Probably a bigger reason Grimm can no longer hack it , more so than 2 year old injuries.
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« #386 : January 01, 2013, 11:07:25 AM »
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possibly the defense wasnt as complicated for the safety in morris' scheme?

Safety is much more simple in Tampa 2 than what we currently ask of our safeties. That's a fact.  Probably a bigger reason Grimm can no longer hack it , more so than 2 year old injuries.

No, S is always pretty much the same. You have zero idea what you are talking about as if we needed more proof.
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« #387 : January 01, 2013, 12:00:52 PM »
Well, there goes the resolution about playing nicely with others Dalbuc... lmao

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« #388 : January 01, 2013, 12:17:34 PM »
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Well, there goes the resolution about playing nicely with others Dalbuc... lmao

Yeah, wasn't on my list of things to do this year anyway. :)

There are some things so over the top and out of the realm of sense I can't help it. I'm actually flabbergasted anyone is running with a Grimm isn't smart enough argument when being smart is about all he was because he clearly never made a football team based on his athletic ability.
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« #389 : January 01, 2013, 12:22:41 PM »
Quote from: dalbuc on January 01, 2013, 12:17:34 PM
Quote from: dbucfan on January 01, 2013, 12:00:52 PM
Well, there goes the resolution about playing nicely with others Dalbuc... lmao

Yeah, wasn't on my list of things to do this year anyway. :)
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