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« #90 : November 04, 2012, 09:14:30 PM »

I'm glad we took Barron. Long term he was the right pick. Claiborne is a moron.

Claiborne with a huge pass interference penalty a few minutes ago.

Scoreboard still reads "0" beside Atlanta, so it probably wasn't that huge.



LOL

40 something yards IIRC.

Your a Cow fan tonight?

Not at all. I always root against the Cows. We aren't gonna catch Atlanta....and if they beat Dallas, then it hurts Dallas' playoff chances.




That is my thought as well.  Cowgirls could be wildcard competition.  Forget Atlanta, let them win the division then lose in the first round to someone.


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« #91 : November 04, 2012, 09:16:25 PM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5. 

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« #92 : November 04, 2012, 09:38:41 PM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.



Then that might have turned out with no David or Barron.


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« #93 : November 05, 2012, 07:21:40 AM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.

In hindsight he would have gone to the Browns at  #3 before we even had a chance to pick.


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« #94 : November 05, 2012, 08:49:00 AM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.

LOL. Good one.

I would have loved to have had Claiborne for yesterday's game. But 8 games in doesn't tell me anything about the long term future
of either player.

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« #95 : November 05, 2012, 08:50:54 AM »

I'm glad we took Barron. Long term he was the right pick. Claiborne is a moron.

Claiborne with a huge pass interference penalty a few minutes ago.

Scoreboard still reads "0" beside Atlanta, so it probably wasn't that huge.



LOL

40 something yards IIRC.

Your a Cow fan tonight?

Not at all. I always root against the Cows. We aren't gonna catch Atlanta....and if they beat Dallas, then it hurts Dallas' playoff chances.




That is my thought as well.  Cowgirls could be wildcard competition.  Forget Atlanta, let them win the division then lose in the first round to someone.

Considering how bad Dallas is I would have preferred them winning last night..


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« #96 : November 07, 2012, 03:03:37 AM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.

Not enough value to take a RB that high. The Bucs got him at the right place for the right price, but 2-3rd round RBs are where you want to try to find them.

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« #97 : November 07, 2012, 09:25:57 AM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.

Not enough value to take a RB that high. The Bucs got him at the right place for the right price, but 2-3rd round RBs are where you want to try to find them.
So AP isnt worth a top 5 draft pick by this reasoning. Brilliant, im sold

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« #98 : November 07, 2012, 10:01:10 AM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.

Not enough value to take a RB that high. The Bucs got him at the right place for the right price, but 2-3rd round RBs are where you want to try to find them.
So AP isnt worth a top 5 draft pick by this reasoning. Brilliant, im sold
Utilizing the power of hindsight, this is dandy.

But given the debate of value based on position, then no, taking a RB in the top 5 is not really the smart way to do buisness these days. 

And in reality, he wasn't a top 5 pick.

Is he worth being picked top 5?  Now that we know what AD is?  Sure.  He is an insanely talented RB.  One of the best of all time.

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« #99 : November 07, 2012, 01:45:37 PM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.

Not enough value to take a RB that high. The Bucs got him at the right place for the right price, but 2-3rd round RBs are where you want to try to find them.
So AP isnt worth a top 5 draft pick by this reasoning. Brilliant, im sold
Utilizing the power of hindsight, this is dandy.

But given the debate of value based on position, then no, taking a RB in the top 5 is not really the smart way to do buisness these days. 

And in reality, he wasn't a top 5 pick.

Is he worth being picked top 5?  Now that we know what AD is?  Sure.  He is an insanely talented RB.  One of the best of all time.

Hey Boidski, nice post!

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« #100 : November 07, 2012, 08:23:57 PM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.

Not enough value to take a RB that high. The Bucs got him at the right place for the right price, but 2-3rd round RBs are where you want to try to find them.
So AP isnt worth a top 5 draft pick by this reasoning. Brilliant, im sold
Utilizing the power of hindsight, this is dandy.

But given the debate of value based on position, then no, taking a RB in the top 5 is not really the smart way to do buisness these days. 

And in reality, he wasn't a top 5 pick.

Is he worth being picked top 5?  Now that we know what AD is?  Sure.  He is an insanely talented RB.  One of the best of all time.

I guess if you are talking about value, the Bucs should have drafted Momo. A safety at #7 isn't any value at all. Comparison wise, he needs to be a Ronnie Lott.

i was gonna do a long response but figured it was pointless...because i dont know the plan.  cant defend something i have no idea on.  

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« #101 : November 07, 2012, 09:44:10 PM »

In hindsight we should have drafted Doug Martin at 5.

Not enough value to take a RB that high. The Bucs got him at the right place for the right price, but 2-3rd round RBs are where you want to try to find them.
So AP isnt worth a top 5 draft pick by this reasoning. Brilliant, im sold
Utilizing the power of hindsight, this is dandy.

But given the debate of value based on position, then no, taking a RB in the top 5 is not really the smart way to do buisness these days. 

And in reality, he wasn't a top 5 pick.

Is he worth being picked top 5?  Now that we know what AD is?  Sure.  He is an insanely talented RB.  One of the best of all time.

I guess if you are talking about value, the Bucs should have drafted Momo. A safety at #7 isn't any value at all. Comparison wise, he needs to be a Ronnie Lott.
I guess we will see.  Hindsight is something we will refer to again in a fee seasons when this gets bumped.

(or most likely forgotten)

As for your reference to Ronnie Lott, one has to consider the era in which they are playing.  Barron is severely hampered by governing rules.  although I doubt Barron is willing to lose the tip of his finger to play ball...

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« #102 : November 07, 2012, 09:48:47 PM »

They just don't make them like that(Ronnie Lott) anymore.

I don't think the choice of Barron was a bad one. We needed a safety. Value-wise it does make you scratch your head a bit, though. Not many safeties have ever been drafted that high.

i was gonna do a long response but figured it was pointless...because i dont know the plan.  cant defend something i have no idea on.  

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« #103 : November 07, 2012, 09:51:23 PM »

True, Barron was not good value at 7.   But had he been the last pick in the first round, he'd be ok.


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« #104 : November 07, 2012, 09:55:14 PM »

He would not have made it that far, Java. I do think we could have traded again and got him a bit later. perhaps there was not a willing trade partner.

Doesn't matter, though. It was an awesome draft.

i was gonna do a long response but figured it was pointless...because i dont know the plan.  cant defend something i have no idea on.  
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