In Hindsight....Should the Bucs have stayed at #5 and drafted Morris Claiborne ?

[NotDeadYet]

    No regrets with the Bucs draft. At the time, we needed a S worse than a CB. Remembering we had no S's on the roster with NFL starter experience other than the injured Cody Grimm, we needed a S far worse.
    I have watched NFL football for over 50 years; Sapp is hands down the best pass-rushing DT I've ever seen. And he wasn't all that bad defending the run either; just not as dominant as in the pass game.

[dbucfan]

DJ, Are you another who thinks those players only could be obtained if the bucs drafted Barron?

COULD they have ?  ....sure.... We also COULD have obtained Tom Brady.....can you prove it , and are the odds as good? The answer the is no.

There's only 1 way we know it happens for sure and for an acceptable price. To assume it all plays out exactly the same if we stay at #5 is ridiculous.

Nope - Brady would break the cap and we aren't having that for sure.  But during the draft the bucs have shown the ability and willingness to move other picks to get where they want to be.  There is no real reason to think the past draft would have not been able to keep the 5th overall, and still obtain Martin and David.  It would have been a matter of price and willingness.

Logic and critical thinking don't get past DJs filter. Claiborne could have a HOF career and Doloris would still talk about his wonderlic score.

SO , are you claiming Claiborne has had a great season ?? Show me the logic and critical thinking skills you've used to deduce this , because it can't be from the amount of yards and TD's he's allowed against him , nor from his lack of stupid penalties.

Nope. Never claimed that he was having a great season. It was more of a prediction of how you would react to Claiborne's success. Claiborne has had a better season than Barron. Even though Claiborne might have been just above average for the year, its still better than the crap we get from Barron on a weekly basis.

Doesn't mean a damn thing. Time will tell who the better player is , and it's way too early to judge. I still believe Barron will be a beast in the coming years.

The point is :  these people who keep bringing up Claiborne at every turn , as if the picking of him would have fixed all our coverage issues , obviously aren't even watching Cowboy games.  The guy hasn't exactly been Darelle Reavis. Eric Wright would probably be a better comparison , and we have one of those. Stop bringing his dumb ass up already....

Agree... what was it that player stated a couple of weeks about RJ 3 ?   "He is not one of us"  paraphrased.....

Claiborne is a dumb ass and some want to celebrate it.   Sorry, I don't praise those that glorify the ignorant and stupid.   Oh and it is rather obvious the Bucs agree with our thoughts on Claiborne by moving down.   While it may be early to tell but last year's Buc draft was the best I have seen. The first (3) picks were brilliant by the organization.

You must be right - I don't recall the bucs ever missing on a first round pick!!!!!!!!

[The Anti-Java]

Claiborne was the slam dunk pick IMO. Barron is solid but I thought he was poor value where we took him.

That pretty much sums up the situation right there.

[Boid Fink]

I expect better results out of Barron next year.

[The Anti-Java]

Claiborne and even Janaris Jenkins have been great this season.  It just makes you wonder, what if ?

[JDouble]

Claiborne has not been great. He's been good at time, bad at other times....never great.

[NovaBuc]

Claiborne has a much, much better supporting cast around him in the Cowboys secondary than he'd have here., Brandon Carr alone is better than anyone we had in the secondary this year - Talib included. I don't think Claiborne would have made much of a difference in the team's porous pass defense, perhaps 300 yards less given up this year?

[The Anti-Java]

Claiborne has not been great. He's been good at time, bad at other times....never great.

Better than Barron.

[Runole]

Claiborne has not been great. He's been good at time, bad at other times....never great.

correct... 

Amazing how many on this thread wish to heap praise on the guy.   Are those praising him Cowboy fans or Buc fans?  I just state is Claiborne a better pick than Barron and Martin?   That is what  was sacrificed by the Bucs passing on the amazing "wonderlic" guy.   I will take that every time. 2>1

[chace1986]

Claiborne has not been great. He's been good at time, bad at other times....never great.

Better than Barron.

The list of rookies that were better than Barron this year is a long one.

[GameTime]

The list of rookies that were better than Barron this year is a long one.

this is true.  but will they be better next year?  for the next ten?  i also paid attention to mcmillian for the packers a bit yesterday.  i know he's been compared as a rookie saftey, but he's not even a starter.

i will admit the last play by barron made me feel much better about him going into the offseason.

[dalbuc]

LOL this even remains a question. Barron is a guy, just a guy back there.  He made one play in the passing game yesterday in a game the falcons only half cared about. Yeah baby. This is what happens when you try and win the run game and not the NFL game.

[Dolorous Jason]

The list of rookies that were better than Barron this year is a long one.

this is true.  but will they be better next year?  for the next ten?  i also paid attention to mcmillian for the packers a bit yesterday.  i know he's been compared as a rookie saftey, but he's not even a starter.

i will admit the last play by barron made me feel much better about him going into the offseason.

That was a beastly break-up on a hall of fame TE , and sealed us the game.

That's the kind of flash that Barron shows that has reasonable people excited about him.  Let the haters hate and continue to pine over an average corner like Morron Claiborne , this kid is going to be a baller.

[GameTime]

LOL this even remains a question. Barron is a guy, just a guy back there.  He made one play in the passing game yesterday in a game the falcons only half cared about. Yeah baby. This is what happens when you try and win the run game and not the NFL game.

if someone doesnt believe that tony gonzalez wanted that ball i think they are crazy.

[Boid Fink]

Hey, we get a huge splash play out of Barron. Something to build on after a bad year.

Gotta laugh at the logic for some clowns. Momo is average despite showing signs of being a good man up corner, but Barron is going to be a stud after a garbage year. Yeah...no agenda there. Hahahahahahaha! 

Go Barron!  Being drafted where you were, you had better be ready to wear that crown!