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Quote from: GameTime on November 28, 2012, 05:55:45 PMwhat are the negatives to legalizing marijuana? how does alcohol benefit the society as a whole? how does the lottery? how does fast food?I am not trying to be argumentative. It's an interesting topic, but that response^^^ illustrates my point really. The best (or maybe the most common) argument for legalizing marijuana is "ok yeah, well look at all the other bad stuff that is legal." That is an awful argument (GT-- I dont mean an awful argument by you so no offense, I just mean that its not very compelling when people make that argument because that is not a reason to do it)
what are the negatives to legalizing marijuana? how does alcohol benefit the society as a whole? how does the lottery? how does fast food?
Quote from: Buc on the Move on November 28, 2012, 06:01:15 PM The benefits of legalization come from denying the profiteers of this black market and the costs of law enforcement/incarceration that come with prohibition. That would not happen though because once marijuana was legal, another drug like cocaine would just fill the void and the cost of incarceration could just be chnaged with laws short of making it legal.
The benefits of legalization come from denying the profiteers of this black market and the costs of law enforcement/incarceration that come with prohibition.
Quote from: VinBucFan on November 28, 2012, 06:13:10 PMQuote from: Buc on the Move on November 28, 2012, 06:01:15 PM The benefits of legalization come from denying the profiteers of this black market and the costs of law enforcement/incarceration that come with prohibition. That would not happen though because once marijuana was legal, another drug like cocaine would just fill the void and the cost of incarceration could just be chnaged with laws short of making it legal.which void are you referring to?
Quote from: VinBucFan on November 28, 2012, 06:07:59 PMQuote from: GameTime on November 28, 2012, 05:55:45 PMwhat are the negatives to legalizing marijuana? how does alcohol benefit the society as a whole? how does the lottery? how does fast food?I am not trying to be argumentative. It's an interesting topic, but that response^^^ illustrates my point really. The best (or maybe the most common) argument for legalizing marijuana is "ok yeah, well look at all the other bad stuff that is legal." That is an awful argument (GT-- I dont mean an awful argument by you so no offense, I just mean that its not very compelling when people make that argument because that is not a reason to do it)oh i agree, it certainly not the argument, but it is valid. but you have seem to have glossed over a couple of strong reasons already, so it seems you are pretty closed on this.but really, what are the negatives?
I am not closed to it at all. You said I glossed over a couple of strong reasons? Did anybody post a reason why the drug is so beneficial to society that it should be legalized? that was my question. Some people posted arguments why LEGALIZATION would be good, but my question was the drug. The closest I saw was your guess that it might be a good alternative pain killer. Did I miss something?
Quote from: VinBucFan on November 28, 2012, 07:52:00 PMI am not closed to it at all. You said I glossed over a couple of strong reasons? Did anybody post a reason why the drug is so beneficial to society that it should be legalized? that was my question. Some people posted arguments why LEGALIZATION would be good, but my question was the drug. The closest I saw was your guess that it might be a good alternative pain killer. Did I miss something?again, not sure what you are looking to find. marijuana has provided relief to numerous patients, usually at a fraction of the cost and long term dependence. what more do you want from the drug? i dont think the FDA is allowing research? ive heard many people say it alleviates anxiety as well.
Quote from: GameTime on November 28, 2012, 08:00:32 PMQuote from: VinBucFan on November 28, 2012, 07:52:00 PMI am not closed to it at all. You said I glossed over a couple of strong reasons? Did anybody post a reason why the drug is so beneficial to society that it should be legalized? that was my question. Some people posted arguments why LEGALIZATION would be good, but my question was the drug. The closest I saw was your guess that it might be a good alternative pain killer. Did I miss something?again, not sure what you are looking to find. marijuana has provided relief to numerous patients, usually at a fraction of the cost and long term dependence. what more do you want from the drug? i dont think the FDA is allowing research? ive heard many people say it alleviates anxiety as well.I think marijuana has a dubious record as a medicine, but even if it does have some medical use I am still not sure that justifies legalizing it.
My Conservative argument for legalizing weed: regulate it and tax the hell out of it to pay off the debt.
still no one posting the virtue of marijuana. lots of talk of the benefits of legalizing it, but what benefit does the drug offer that makes it worth it when most drugs are illegal?
Quote from: VinBucFan on November 28, 2012, 08:44:17 PMstill no one posting the virtue of marijuana. lots of talk of the benefits of legalizing it, but what benefit does the drug offer that makes it worth it when most drugs are illegal?No matter what anyone says you will still have the "Reefer Madness" mentality. You haven't figured that out yet?