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#15 : November 19, 2012, 01:48:37 PM

Luciferian economy.

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#16 : November 19, 2012, 01:49:19 PM

Evolution = religion of Luciferianism

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#17 : November 19, 2012, 04:38:20 PM

Im 23 with a **CENSORED**ty 500 bucks a week paycheck , live check to check , but I saved to buy season ticket , nosebleed season tickets but at least I'm there , going to bucs games its not the cool thing anymore , everyone has the sense that the bucs suck , that its a waste of money

If you talked to a financial planner, I think he/she would discourage you from purchasing tickets and putting the money into a retirement plan/ROTH/emergency savings. That might be what some people are doing today as they get out of this economic crisis we've had in the area over the last 5+ yrs. They've learned their lesson not to live beyond their means and save money for the possibility of being laid off or worse.

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#18 : November 19, 2012, 04:41:45 PM

If you talked to a financial planner, I think he/she would discourage you from purchasing tickets and putting the money into a retirement plan/ROTH/emergency savings. That might be what some people are doing today as they get out of this economic crisis we've had in the area over the last 5+ yrs. They've learned their lesson not to live beyond their means and save money for the possibility of being laid off or worse.

yeah, thats exactly it.  tampa bay cant sell out because a good majority of fans from back in the day are now just investing in retirement instead.  riiiiiiight.

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#19 : November 19, 2012, 04:43:46 PM

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!

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#20 : November 19, 2012, 04:51:35 PM

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!

....of biblical proportions...


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#21 : November 19, 2012, 05:03:06 PM

If you talked to a financial planner, I think he/she would discourage you from purchasing tickets and putting the money into a retirement plan/ROTH/emergency savings. That might be what some people are doing today as they get out of this economic crisis we've had in the area over the last 5+ yrs. They've learned their lesson not to live beyond their means and save money for the possibility of being laid off or worse.

yeah, thats exactly it.  tampa bay cant sell out because a good majority of fans from back in the day are now just investing in retirement instead.  riiiiiiight.

Not just retirement funds. Emergency funds as well. Are you having difficulty understanding basic consumer behavior?

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#22 : November 19, 2012, 05:11:16 PM

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!

....of biblical proportions...

because the all mighty God has allowed Lucifer to do as he pleases and yet punishes man for his short comings. Seems God created his own opponent who he openly doesnt combat so he can condemn a man he created with out knowledge of either ones existence. Sounds like a fair and logical battle. I mean why would a God create an enemy he refuses to vanquish all so he can force a being whom he claims to love so much, then force them to learn, acknowledge, and worship him without any education of this from birth.

Oh, thats right, so Lucifer can control the entire world, its money, and its beliefs so only a certain amount of the creatures God loves so much get into heaven. Seems we have been set up for failure by the being we are supposed to have blind faith in.

So in all actuality, God wanted Lucifer and these bankers in power so he would have omeone to combat with over the souls of the men and women he created. So we shouldnt be against Lucifer at all because then God wouldnt have an evil force to combat, God obviously wants that evil force because he keeps Lucifer around. That or the all mighty God isnt what he says he is and he doesnt have the power to end evil. I mean what sort of sadistic diety would want all of his creations to accept? Why would he keep an evil around for them to fall short of his grace.....unless hes npt all powerful and cant get rid of the evil.......or we were lied to and his powers dont extend as far as we believe?


Oh my God!!!! God has his own conspiracy!!! What if God is actually the devil and Luicfer is actually God!!!! Ultimate conspiracy!!!



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#23 : November 19, 2012, 05:29:56 PM

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!

....of biblical proportions...

because the all mighty God has allowed Lucifer to do as he pleases and yet punishes man for his short comings. Seems God created his own opponent who he openly doesnt combat so he can condemn a man he created with out knowledge of either ones existence. Sounds like a fair and logical battle. I mean why would a God create an enemy he refuses to vanquish all so he can force a being whom he claims to love so much, then force them to learn, acknowledge, and worship him without any education of this from birth.

Oh, thats right, so Lucifer can control the entire world, its money, and its beliefs so only a certain amount of the creatures God loves so much get into heaven. Seems we have been set up for failure by the being we are supposed to have blind faith in.

So in all actuality, God wanted Lucifer and these bankers in power so he would have omeone to combat with over the souls of the men and women he created. So we shouldnt be against Lucifer at all because then God wouldnt have an evil force to combat, God obviously wants that evil force because he keeps Lucifer around. That or the all mighty God isnt what he says he is and he doesnt have the power to end evil. I mean what sort of sadistic diety would want all of his creations to accept? Why would he keep an evil around for them to fall short of his grace.....unless hes npt all powerful and cant get rid of the evil.......or we were lied to and his powers dont extend as far as we believe?


Oh my God!!!! God has his own conspiracy!!! What if God is actually the devil and Luicfer is actually God!!!! Ultimate conspiracy!!!

+1. So does ^this^ mean that the Bucs sellout on Sunday??


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#24 : November 19, 2012, 06:00:16 PM

Not just retirement funds. Emergency funds as well. Are you having difficulty understanding basic consumer behavior?

im having difficulty believing the average Floridian is staying home on Saturday night now.

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#25 : November 19, 2012, 06:06:51 PM

Valid reason. But yet the hard Rock Casino's parking lot is jam packed everyday. The south Tampa bars, and strip clubs on Dale Mabry are packed. Restaurants are full on the weekends. So there is disposable income in the community, those with the disposable income just aren't passionate rabid Buc fans.

I don't make a lot of money, I budget and save and pay for my tickets on a monthly payment plan. If you really want to go and support the team you find a way.


There is a big difference between citing casino's, bars, and strip clubs being packed and what the real economic outlook are. Those 3 things are driven by impulsive people that will spend their last dime on those aforementioned things.  There are 12 step programs for those things also.  I am a 15 year season tix holder...if I have to decide between paying my bills and going to the BUCS game I will pay my bills.  People that frequent those three other things will actually spend their last dollar there and then some.  They also aren't busing people from Sun City Center to BUCS games like the casino either.  Not a real valid comparison IMO but I get what you are implying.


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#26 : November 19, 2012, 06:24:31 PM

Listening to coach's show.... said he needs the fans to fill the stadium this wknd.

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#27 : November 19, 2012, 06:37:50 PM

Listening to coach's show.... said he needs the fans to fill the stadium this wknd.

Won't be surprised if we see fans buy up tickets to fill up the stadium, but they will be fans coming down from Georgia.

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#28 : November 19, 2012, 06:43:15 PM

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!

....of biblical proportions...

because the all mighty God has allowed Lucifer to do as he pleases and yet punishes man for his short comings. Seems God created his own opponent who he openly doesnt combat so he can condemn a man he created with out knowledge of either ones existence. Sounds like a fair and logical battle. I mean why would a God create an enemy he refuses to vanquish all so he can force a being whom he claims to love so much, then force them to learn, acknowledge, and worship him without any education of this from birth.

Oh, thats right, so Lucifer can control the entire world, its money, and its beliefs so only a certain amount of the creatures God loves so much get into heaven. Seems we have been set up for failure by the being we are supposed to have blind faith in.

So in all actuality, God wanted Lucifer and these bankers in power so he would have omeone to combat with over the souls of the men and women he created. So we shouldnt be against Lucifer at all because then God wouldnt have an evil force to combat, God obviously wants that evil force because he keeps Lucifer around. That or the all mighty God isnt what he says he is and he doesnt have the power to end evil. I mean what sort of sadistic diety would want all of his creations to accept? Why would he keep an evil around for them to fall short of his grace.....unless hes npt all powerful and cant get rid of the evil.......or we were lied to and his powers dont extend as far as we believe?


Oh my God!!!! God has his own conspiracy!!! What if God is actually the devil and Luicfer is actually God!!!! Ultimate conspiracy!!!
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sounds like you have been reading Blavatsky's secret doctrine

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#29 : November 19, 2012, 06:56:57 PM

Any plan that forces the fanbase to abandon vices to attend games is destined to fail. There aren't a whole bunch of fans that will be that accomodating. There aren't enough people with enough disposable income who want to attend games in the area.

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