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The stadium deal is just another excuse.The Rays show what the problem is....people want it for free. The Rays attendance is terrible no matter what Sternberg tries to do. Tickets are already among the lowest in MLB. You can bring your own food in the game. They've tried increasing payroll. Still no matter what, people won't come out. But guest what is sky high? The TV ratings. People want to watch the game in HD at home for free.And I think that's the same thing with the Bucs.
Quote from: cyberdude558 on November 22, 2012, 08:45:56 PMThe stadium deal is just another excuse.The Rays show what the problem is....people want it for free. The Rays attendance is terrible no matter what Sternberg tries to do. Tickets are already among the lowest in MLB. You can bring your own food in the game. They've tried increasing payroll. Still no matter what, people won't come out. But guest what is sky high? The TV ratings. People want to watch the game in HD at home for free.And I think that's the same thing with the Bucs.Some of it is, but the fact is, the people do not have disposable income. In most cases, people are living from paycheck to paycheck. I don't understand how that's even arguable at this point.You have a team that was once beloved, now playing at a great level (like we always hoped in an offense), but yet people won't come out? I'd go to every game if I had the money, including away, but again, disposable income needed. Remember, only about 10 percent of people in Tampa area have genuine disposable income. The rest are poor, middle class families, or snowbirds that bring their team pride with them (they do nothing for the economy they actually raid).People saying other people are not fans or fairweather because they chose to feed/cloth/keep their families instead of going to games, are dnozzles. This is NOT on the people of Tampa being "bad fans," and anyone who thinks so probably makes more money than they're actually worth. As the saying goes, "money doesn't grow from trees." Plainly put, people have better things to spend their hard earned money on. Rays or Bucs, it doesn't matter. Fans would fill those stands if they were able to. Nearly everyone would rather GO to the game than see it on T.V. Just watch their eyes light up when you tell them you're going... Heck, I went to the Pats/Bucs PS game and nearly got five other people (besides my regular friend) to buy tickets and go with me, but they all separately canceled due to money issues. All because I said I was going, they knew they had a ride there and back, and didn't have to pay parking...they wanted to go (never asked them), yet still didn't have the money to sacrifice.
Quote from: Benchwarmer#1 on November 22, 2012, 09:06:10 PMQuote from: cyberdude558 on November 22, 2012, 08:45:56 PMThe stadium deal is just another excuse.The Rays show what the problem is....people want it for free. The Rays attendance is terrible no matter what Sternberg tries to do. Tickets are already among the lowest in MLB. You can bring your own food in the game. They've tried increasing payroll. Still no matter what, people won't come out. But guest what is sky high? The TV ratings. People want to watch the game in HD at home for free.And I think that's the same thing with the Bucs.Some of it is, but the fact is, the people do not have disposable income. In most cases, people are living from paycheck to paycheck. I don't understand how that's even arguable at this point.You have a team that was once beloved, now playing at a great level (like we always hoped in an offense), but yet people won't come out? I'd go to every game if I had the money, including away, but again, disposable income needed. Remember, only about 10 percent of people in Tampa area have genuine disposable income. The rest are poor, middle class families, or snowbirds that bring their team pride with them (they do nothing for the economy they actually raid).People saying other people are not fans or fairweather because they chose to feed/cloth/keep their families instead of going to games, are dnozzles. This is NOT on the people of Tampa being "bad fans," and anyone who thinks so probably makes more money than they're actually worth. As the saying goes, "money doesn't grow from trees." Plainly put, people have better things to spend their hard earned money on. Rays or Bucs, it doesn't matter. Fans would fill those stands if they were able to. Nearly everyone would rather GO to the game than see it on T.V. Just watch their eyes light up when you tell them you're going... Heck, I went to the Pats/Bucs PS game and nearly got five other people (besides my regular friend) to buy tickets and go with me, but they all separately canceled due to money issues. All because I said I was going, they knew they had a ride there and back, and didn't have to pay parking...they wanted to go (never asked them), yet still didn't have the money to sacrifice.Yes, like booze, cigarettes, drugs and hookers. THAT money is ALWAYS there...
Yes, like booze, cigarettes, drugs and hookers. THAT money is ALWAYS there...
Quote from: Al Bundy on November 22, 2012, 09:13:20 PMYes, like booze, cigarettes, drugs and hookers. THAT money is ALWAYS there...Is this what your family spent money on when you were a kid? If not, then why the hell do you think other families do?
For years, the Glazers bought up tix...and Buc fans took it for granted. Today, they say no more....
One of my buddies and i have had this conversation many times. He claims to be a die hard fan and is constantly complaining about the blackouts. When i pointed out to him that he spends more $$ on his cigs in a yr than i spend on my tix, he didn't like it very much. Truth hurts, i guess.
Quote from: Hate on November 22, 2012, 07:19:26 PMFor years, the Glazers bought up tix...and Buc fans took it for granted. Today, they say no more....Bull**CENSORED**. The years you claim they were buying tickets, the games were 99% sold out anyway.