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#60 : November 23, 2012, 02:58:40 PM

The stadium deal is just another excuse.

The Rays show what the problem is....people want it for free. The Rays attendance is terrible no matter what Sternberg tries to do. Tickets are already among  the lowest in MLB. You can bring your own food in the game. They've tried increasing payroll. Still no matter what, people won't come out. But guest what is sky high? The TV ratings. People want to watch the game in HD at home for free.

And I think that's the same thing with the Bucs.

Some of it is, but the fact is, the people do not have disposable income. In most cases, people are living from paycheck to paycheck. I don't understand how that's even arguable at this point.

You have a team that was once beloved, now playing at a great level (like we always hoped in an offense), but yet people won't come out? I'd go to every game if I had the money, including away, but again, disposable income needed. Remember, only about 10 percent of people in Tampa area have genuine disposable income. The rest are poor, middle class families, or snowbirds that bring their team pride with them (they do nothing for the economy they actually raid).

People saying other people are not fans or fairweather because they chose to feed/cloth/keep their families instead of going to games, are dnozzles. This is NOT on the people of Tampa being "bad fans," and anyone who thinks so probably makes more money than they're actually worth. As the saying goes, "money doesn't grow from trees." Plainly put, people have better things to spend their hard earned money on. Rays or Bucs, it doesn't matter. Fans would fill those stands if they were able to. Nearly everyone would rather GO to the game than see it on T.V. Just watch their eyes light up when you tell them you're going... Heck, I went to the Pats/Bucs PS game and nearly got five other people (besides my regular friend) to buy tickets and go with me, but they all separately canceled due to money issues. All because I said I was going, they knew they had a ride there and back, and didn't have to pay parking...they wanted to go (never asked them), yet still didn't have the money to sacrifice.

Yes, like booze, cigarettes, drugs and hookers. THAT money is ALWAYS there...

The last guy I knew that went to one, well...., it was his bachelor party. And that was three months ago. Everyone pooled up to get him A drink and a couple of dances. That place was dead also BTW.

People are prioritizing their money these days. Haven't you heard? ...Even the porn industry is having financial problems, bars are closing/getting robbed, and police are getting more violent crime arrests now than drug related arrests.

Folks are fighting for the basics. It's getting pretty bad for people who can't pull welfare. Haven't you noticed more bums/homeless than normal? It isn't related to drugs, hookers, booze or cigs my friend. It's the economy. People are taking paycuts, or getting laid off left and right, without an opportunity to work elsewhere.

Meanwhile, Detroit gets 98.1% capacity...I know, I know, that Detroit economy is on the up and up!!!


As I said, no one wants to discuss "the problem" just want to talk smack.


Where are you season tickets located by the way?

People keep "discussing the problem" and a lot blame it on the economy...no? As I said, that Detroit economy is doing really well so I understand how they keep getting 98.1% capacity at their games!!!

As for your question to me, I'm not gonna discuss my situation again...been there, done that...with you, it's pointless.

I'm going to the game Sunday and am going to the Eagles games which makes 4 games for me this season. Considering I live in MD, I'm gonna say that's pretty good.

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a lot of different reasons have been discussed, the only one you, joe, hate, and many others seem to want to point to is the fan base sucking with no real regard for any real reasons.

good for you about being there this Sunday.   Like I've said before if all the whiners put their money where their mouth was and bought season tickets and donated tickets for the games they couldn't attend, well we'd surely have that sell out you and joe so desperately desire .....

I don't know you, but I doubt you're really this dumb.

I'm pointing to the "economy excuse" as a reason that people on here keep bringing up in regards to why games aren't selling out...and I'm not buying it (no pun intended).

So now it's the people that go to the games' fault games aren't selling out because we're not donating tixs to others? Wow, seriously? That's a good one...thanks for the laugh!!!

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#61 : November 23, 2012, 03:05:31 PM

save it clown.   you claimed to live in baltimore and that you'd be lucky to go to 1 game this year earlier in the season.  now you go to the games?  which is it?



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#62 : November 23, 2012, 05:00:23 PM

The stadium deal is just another excuse.

The Rays show what the problem is....people want it for free. The Rays attendance is terrible no matter what Sternberg tries to do. Tickets are already among  the lowest in MLB. You can bring your own food in the game. They've tried increasing payroll. Still no matter what, people won't come out. But guest what is sky high? The TV ratings. People want to watch the game in HD at home for free.

And I think that's the same thing with the Bucs.

Yup.  Piss poor fan base.


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#63 : November 23, 2012, 09:40:09 PM

save it clown.   you claimed to live in baltimore and that you'd be lucky to go to 1 game this year earlier in the season.  now you go to the games?  which is it?

WTF are you talking about?

You're such a f'ing idiot...I'm done responding to your stupidity.  How dare I not supply other Bucs "fans" w/tickets!!!


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#64 : November 23, 2012, 09:49:45 PM

How dare I not supply other Bucs "fans" w/tickets!!!

The Glazers should buy them.  They're the ones who screwed the area over for years causing the disinterest in the team we see today.   But if you are complaining about bay area fans, then you yourself should step up and buy tickets and give them away.


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#65 : November 23, 2012, 09:59:03 PM

How dare I not supply other Bucs "fans" w/tickets!!!

The Glazers should buy them.  They're the ones who screwed the area over for years causing the disinterest in the team we see today.   But if you are complaining about bay area fans, then you yourself should step up and buy tickets and give them away.

HAHA, yea, ok...it's my job to ensure Tampa "fans" go to games. You 2 should get a room.

I just got a text from my friend who is a Carolina fan ripping Tampa fans for the game being blacked out this Sunday. This fan base is pathetic...I do my part and I don't even live near Tampa let alone FL.

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#66 : November 23, 2012, 10:02:46 PM

It's not the fan base, it's the Glazers.   You can't try to anally rape your fans for a few years then expect them to trust you again overnight.   If ever.


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#67 : November 23, 2012, 10:05:47 PM

It's not the fan base, it's the Glazers.   You can't try to anally rape your fans for a few years then expect them to trust you again overnight.   If ever.

I agree...let's act like 5 yr olds and hold a grudge forever!!!

Meanwhile, ticket prices are as low as $30.

Like I said, pathetic.

I'll bring up Detroit once again. Season after season of garbage teams yet they're at 98.1% capacity this season...go figure.

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#68 : November 23, 2012, 10:11:07 PM

No need to bring up Detroit.   It's not the economy.    There are plenty of people here who can afford those tickets.   Problem is the Glazers tried to screw them over.   Will they hold a grudge forever?   I don't know.   But I still do.

(5 year olds hold a grudge for 5 minutes.   Their attention span is short.)


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#69 : November 23, 2012, 10:20:15 PM

No need to bring up Detroit.   It's not the economy.    There are plenty of people here who can afford those tickets.   Problem is the Glazers tried to screw them over.   Will they hold a grudge forever?   I don't know.   But I still do.

(5 year olds hold a grudge for 5 minutes.   Their attention span is short.)

Meanwhile, a lot of people on here blame the economy for not being able to go to games.

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#70 : November 23, 2012, 10:29:14 PM

a lot of folks try to explain the attendance exclusively using the economy.  there is more. 

not saying the economy and ticket prices aren't part of it.  but as Java noted, a fair portion is a response go glazer actions.  better feelings between the old fan base and the glazers would help the attendance problem. 

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#71 : November 23, 2012, 10:42:34 PM

a lot of folks try to explain the attendance exclusively using the economy.  there is more. 

not saying the economy and ticket prices aren't part of it.  but as Java noted, a fair portion is a response go glazer actions.  better feelings between the old fan base and the glazers would help the attendance problem.

Ticket prices can't be part of it...there are $30 tickets.

They went out and spent money this offseason. Sports for me at least is entertainment...this team is entertaining and this is a huge game on Sunday...there are ZERO excuses for this game not selling out.

People take this sh*t way too seriously...holding a grudge against ownership for stuff that happened in the past? #lame

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#72 : November 23, 2012, 10:49:59 PM

Did you ever make a deal - or what you thought to be a deal - with someone you trusted - then have that party turn on you.  that happened. 

as for the 30 dollar tickets- helpful - but unless that makes up the full 15% that is missing there is more to do.

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#73 : November 23, 2012, 11:11:17 PM

Did you ever make a deal - or what you thought to be a deal - with someone you trusted - then have that party turn on you.  that happened. 

as for the 30 dollar tickets- helpful - but unless that makes up the full 15% that is missing there is more to do.

I don't make "deals" w/owners of football teams. I'm not a player nor do I work for the Bucs. Like I said, people take this stuff way too seriously.

I had season tixs in the past...I knew what I was paying, getting into, etc.

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#74 : November 23, 2012, 11:12:33 PM

How dare I not supply other Bucs "fans" w/tickets!!!

The Glazers should buy them.  They're the ones who screwed the area over for years causing the disinterest in the team we see today.   But if you are complaining about bay area fans, then you yourself should step up and buy tickets and give them away.

HAHA, yea, ok...it's my job to ensure Tampa "fans" go to games. You 2 should get a room.

I just got a text from my friend who is a Carolina fan ripping Tampa fans for the game being blacked out this Sunday. This fan base is pathetic...I do my part and I don't even live near Tampa let alone FL.




How mighty of that panther.f-an went to the game in char said it was a sellout but there was barely 50;000 there.
St. Louis Cincy Oakland Arizona Jax Miami all have empty seats. Fact!!!!!!
: November 23, 2012, 11:15:25 PM ToddyBuc

Bucs-Lightning already World Champions. Rays Next!!!
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