Now with images! Another example of why Freeman might never be elite

[BucsnNoles]

Mike Williams is a better passer than Freeman at this point.

[GameTime]

Yes, but you don't have to make them all. Yesterdays game could've been won on any number of plays.

Open MIke Williams
Underwood Drop
Ahmad Black Hold
No Off Sides
Leonard Johnson/Julio Jones.

If one of those plays goes the other way then it did, we probably win.

One of those things was on Josh Freeman. (Not saying you, specifically, are blaming Freeman for the loss. Just speaking to everyone in the thread)

to counter that, id say you need your franchise players to be the ones that step up.  a tickytack hold on a backup safety?  blaming an undrafted rookie CB for giving up a big play to one of most talented WR's in the NFL?  sure, we'd love our backups and depth to be amazing.  but what we really need are our impact/franchise/QB player(s) to be amazing.

[lyronmewis]

I was guilty of overreacting earlier in the season, especially in the Dallas game where it looked like Freeman couldn't even get a pass near a receiver.

The real reason he missed the pass was because he was going through his progressions, in which Mike Williams was 3rd, and thought it was a risky throw due to the looks that Asante Samuel had given him on film and during the game. By the time he decided to throw it, the timing was just messed up and he threw it too hastily.

It's something that just comes with time and experience, knowing when to look for certain routes. It's not as if there's something fundamentally flawed with Freeman. 

[Bayfisher]

Oh no!  Freeman sux again. Pay no attention to the defense that learns by osmosis.

[BucDaFackUp]

Josh Freeman is the reason I'm in counselling!

[MUSCLE_HAMSTER]

Freeman is getting called out for the miss to Mike Williams because it was the easiest of all the plays that could have cost us the game. He had no pressure on him and Williams was wide open. He screwed up. He usually makes the play.
All of the other scenarios had a much higher degree if difficulty.

Not really.

Underwood dropped a routine catch. Refs missed an easy offsides. Leonard Johnson stumbled briefly. Ahmad Black holds someone for no real reason.

Was at the game so I couldn't tell...if Underwood makes that catch on 3rd down, do you think he gets enough for a 1st down?

accoriding to the TV yellow line, yes.

[MUSCLE_HAMSTER]

Yes, but you don't have to make them all. Yesterdays game could've been won on any number of plays.

Open MIke Williams
Underwood Drop
Ahmad Black Hold
No Off Sides
Leonard Johnson/Julio Jones.

If one of those plays goes the other way then it did, we probably win.

One of those things was on Josh Freeman. (Not saying you, specifically, are blaming Freeman for the loss. Just speaking to everyone in the thread)

to counter that, id say you need your franchise players to be the ones that step up.  a tickytack hold on a backup safety?  blaming an undrafted rookie CB for giving up a big play to one of most talented WR's in the NFL?  sure, we'd love our backups and depth to be amazing.  but what we really need are our impact/franchise/QB player(s) to be amazing.

thats a fair and valid point. But I think in the lock room, it would be wrong to hold different players to different standards. Maybe not though. 

[BucsFTW]

There is a reason this is the NFL. If you've gotten this far, you're supposed to make those kinds of throws any day of the week.

And Brady and the Manning boys don't miss throws ever?   Happens every week.
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You're not supposed to miss a guy that's open near the end zone when there is no one within a mile radius. Manning, Brady, Brees, Ryan, Flaco hell, even Vick would have made that throw in their sleep.
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Funny...   Just a few hours after Freeman blew that "open for 6" pass to VJax, Eli Manning terribly underthrew Hakeem Nicks with a 2-step (at least) advantage on Green Bay's DBs - that was a guarateed touchdown.

Yeah...  Eli sucks out loud, and his SB rings should be returned because... by your logic...  Manning will never be an Elite quarterback.

Ya see.........  It does sound just that ridiculous when you read it again.  "Elite quarterbacks" miss their targets occasionally.

IF it were guaranteed - they'd call it "death", not "football".

[QaZ]

There is a reason this is the NFL. If you've gotten this far, you're supposed to make those kinds of throws any day of the week.

And Brady and the Manning boys don't miss throws ever?   Happens every week.

You're not supposed to miss a guy that's open near the end zone when there is no one within a mile radius. Manning, Brady, Brees, Ryan, Flaco hell, even Vick would have made that throw in their sleep.
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Funny...   Just a few hours after Freeman blew that "open for 6" pass to VJax, Eli Manning terribly underthrew Hakeem Nicks with a 2-step (at least) advantage on Green Bay's DBs - that was a guarateed touchdown.

Yeah...  Eli sucks out loud, and his SB rings should be returned because... by your logic...  Manning will never be an Elite quarterback.

Ya see.........  It does sound just that ridiculous when you read it again.  "Elite quarterbacks" miss their targets occasionally.

IF it were guaranteed - they'd call it "death", not "football".
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To be fair, Eli is not an elite QB. As hot as he can get from time to time, and he got hot twice with his team in the PO, he can stink it up big time too.

[BucsFTW]

Yes, but you don't have to make them all. Yesterdays game could've been won on any number of plays.

Open MIke Williams
Underwood Drop
Ahmad Black Hold
No Off Sides
Leonard Johnson/Julio Jones.

If one of those plays goes the other way then it did, we probably win.

One of those things was on Josh Freeman. (Not saying you, specifically, are blaming Freeman for the loss. Just speaking to everyone in the thread)

The missed fieldgoal that would have given us the lead may have slipped Hamster's mind, but that's just another example.

to counter that, id say you need your franchise players to be the ones that step up.  a tickytack hold on a backup safety?  blaming an undrafted rookie CB for giving up a big play to one of most talented WR's in the NFL?  sure, we'd love our backups and depth to be amazing.  What we really need are our impact/franchise/QB player(s) to be amazing, because if the quarterback doesn't play 'great', and just plays 'well' - we may very well lose by 1...

Might my editorial add some accuracy to your post GT...?

[QaZ]

There is a reason this is the NFL. If you've gotten this far, you're supposed to make those kinds of throws any day of the week.

And Brady and the Manning boys don't miss throws ever?   Happens every week.

You're not supposed to miss a guy that's open near the end zone when there is no one within a mile radius. Manning, Brady, Brees, Ryan, Flaco hell, even Vick would have made that throw in their sleep.
[/quote]

Funny...   Just a few hours after Freeman blew that "open for 6" pass to VJax, Eli Manning terribly underthrew Hakeem Nicks with a 2-step (at least) advantage on Green Bay's DBs - that was a guarateed touchdown.

Yeah...  Eli sucks out loud, and his SB rings should be returned because... by your logic...  Manning will never be an Elite quarterback.

Ya see.........  It does sound just that ridiculous when you read it again.  "Elite quarterbacks" miss their targets occasionally.

IF it were guaranteed - they'd call it "death", not "football".
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To be fair i would not call Eli an elite QB. As hot as he can get from time to time, and he got hot twice with his team in the PO, he can stink it up big time aswell.

[Raheem33]

another stupid post

[El Diablo]

"elite" qb's don't win superbowls elite teams do.. "elite" peyton would have NEVER won a superbowl without a defense. him, brees, favre and best of all dilfer all have one ring.. oh and marino he is definitely "elite"... losers care about being elite.. winners go home and fck the prom queen.

[BucDaFackUp]

[Hayseed]

Talk about failing to take advantage of the opportunities the Falcons handed us all game long. Every time we ended up in a position that could change the game, Freeman goes and locks-on, overthrows or underthrows WRs that are more open than the sky itself.

This team isn't getting anywhere if our QB can't even throw accurate passes when it matters the most.

Time to have some fun now that the replay is up:






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Oh yeah, this all happened in the same set of downs.

1st pass, absolutely Josh's fault. No excuse, shouldve hit MW for the TD. However, the 2nd pass is not displayed accurately. Josh never had a chance to fully step into the deep pass to VJax. One of the pass rusher, Penn's guy I think, was on Josh in a flash based on the perspective of the photo and he was unable to follow through. Even the announcers went back and discussed in a replay. Keep spinning though. Not sure what your agenda is here......actually I do, more chest thumping, "I was right, you were wrong" crap. Nothing to do with the team really.