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What CBs do you think will be available at #17 that aren't pretty much the same player as the guys available in the 2nd round?
Quote from: chace1986 on December 02, 2012, 10:49:47 PMWhat CBs do you think will be available at #17 that aren't pretty much the same player as the guys available in the 2nd round?i dont know, i dont watch film i just read what people write and assume. i would guess the BPA of millner/banks/rhodes/gray? but id also love to double dip CB's if they are worth it.
Is it worth it? Where is the biggest weakness in this defense? Our crummy secondary or the pathetic pass rush? Are we splitting hairs? Our d-line didn't touch Manning all day. That is a disaster waiting to happen no matter who you have at corner. You think rookie CBs will be able to stay with guys Brady or Manning or Rodgers or Brees or Ryan are throwing to if they can sit in the pocket for five seconds? Look I consider myself a positive poster here. The defensive line has been pathetic at getting after the QB. That is a fact.
Quote from: warrenfb12 on December 02, 2012, 11:08:57 PMIs it worth it? Where is the biggest weakness in this defense? Our crummy secondary or the pathetic pass rush? Are we splitting hairs? Our d-line didn't touch Manning all day. That is a disaster waiting to happen no matter who you have at corner. You think rookie CBs will be able to stay with guys Brady or Manning or Rodgers or Brees or Ryan are throwing to if they can sit in the pocket for five seconds? Look I consider myself a positive poster here. The defensive line has been pathetic at getting after the QB. That is a fact.do you believe that manning actually held the ball for 5 seconds most of the time today? and to my point - do you believe there will be a guy that is double digit sacks mid-late 1st round? and if so, why did all the teams ahead of us pass on him?
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.
This is about getting a guy that gets consistent pressure.
7 sacks in twelve games in a league where the QB is throwing 40-50 times per game is mediocre.
Quote from: chace1986 on December 02, 2012, 11:42:35 PMThis is about getting a guy that gets consistent pressure. these guys arent easy to find.
So settle a mediocre pass rush....cool. That should get our defense where it needs to be.
Quote from: chace1986 on December 03, 2012, 07:52:09 AMSo settle a mediocre pass rush....cool. That should get our defense where it needs to be.who's settling? a healthy clayborn, bowers, bennett, and mccoy should be worth about 30 sacks? they are all young and seemingly improving still.or we could draft a guy like bruce irvin mid first? i havent watched any seattle games, but his sack numbers look nice for a rookie. 2 sacks against GB, CAR, and NYJ...but basically invisible against the rest. is that really the answer?
We need to add another DL to this rotation early in the draft.