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#30 : December 03, 2012, 02:36:17 AM

I remember us kneeling it down years ago and an opposing player getting flagged for unsportsmanlike for swatting the ball out of the center's hands trying to anticipate the snap. 

Nothing wrong with that.


it is just pointless "risk".

True.
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#31 : December 03, 2012, 05:15:14 AM

If Schiano wants to go Bush League then he should expect cheap shots.   


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#32 : December 03, 2012, 05:21:06 AM

Why are the refs allowing the offensive players to cheap shot our D-lineman while they are on the grass after the kneel-down blitz? Some of these players are blatantly punching our guys!

The refs are probably rooting for the offensive players to knock a few teeth loose.   I bet they go home after the game and have a few laughs over beers about allowing the offensive linemen to get a little payback after the whistle.


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#33 : December 03, 2012, 05:25:36 AM

Agreed.  The entire NFL hates Schiano.


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#34 : December 03, 2012, 06:34:16 AM

Agreed.  The entire NFL hates Schiano.

Great give me a winner who is hated like Billicheck, not a beauty contestant like wade Phillips

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#35 : December 03, 2012, 06:35:26 AM

The refs don't hate Belichick.


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#36 : December 03, 2012, 06:41:59 AM

How many games have the Bucs won due to their all out rushes on kneeldowns?   ZERO


how many games have the Bucs lost due to their all out rushes on kneeldowns?  ZERO

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#37 : December 03, 2012, 06:42:31 AM

Classless.  Don't understand the kneel down rush at all.

because its also classy to give up and quit.

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#38 : December 03, 2012, 06:43:19 AM

The difference is in how we are doing it -- the full on hardcore rush -- and the timing.  The league is all mangina now (just look at Barbara Costas tonight for a prime example) and having an old-school, play to the whistle mindset isn't going to fly in an era of over the top "safety" concerns.  When we are banning soda and french fries and voting in the biggest nannies we can find at every level of government, the tough guy approach is just begging to be attacked.  WHat we are doing will be uses as an excuse for changing the rules of the game.  In another day it would be considered good old fashioned competitive spirit.  In the pussified world we now live in it is just meanie McMeaniePants pointless "risk".

agree.

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#39 : December 03, 2012, 06:44:27 AM

How many games have the Bucs won due to their all out rushes on kneeldowns?   ZERO


how many games have the Bucs lost due to their all out rushes on kneeldowns?  ZERO

They've lost every game they've tried that play.   So ALL of them.


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#40 : December 03, 2012, 06:59:51 AM

reconsider your use of the word "due".

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#41 : December 03, 2012, 08:09:55 AM

Teams have been hitting the kneel downs for a while.  I remember us kneeling it down years ago and an opposing player getting flagged for unsportsmanlike for swatting the ball out of the center's hands trying to anticipate the snap. 

The difference is in how we are doing it -- the full on hardcore rush -- and the timing.  The league is all mangina now (just look at Barbara Costas tonight for a prime example) and having an old-school, play to the whistle mindset isn't going to fly in an era of over the top "safety" concerns.  When we are banning soda and french fries and voting in the biggest nannies we can find at every level of government, the tough guy approach is just begging to be attacked.  WHat we are doing will be uses as an excuse for changing the rules of the game.  In another day it would be considered good old fashioned competitive spirit.  In the pussified world we now live in it is just meanie McMeaniePants pointless "risk".

You can't possibly make a rule against this. What is it going to say ?

" If the offense is in a formation that indicates a kneel down , the defense shall quit  . Any attempt to win at this point , or play the game at 100% effort level , is strictly forbidden . The offense shall have the right to determine when the game is over. The defense trying to do it's job will result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty. "

No rule will be made , because it's ridiculous. If they do make a rule like this , we've gone from a real sport to professional wrestling.
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#42 : December 03, 2012, 08:11:48 AM

" If the offense is in a formation that indicates a kneel down , the defense shall quit  . Any attempt to win at this point , or play the game at 100% effort level , is strictly forbidden . The offense shall have the right to determine when the game is over. The defense trying to do it's job will result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty. "

it would be a classy rule, thats for sure.

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#43 : December 03, 2012, 08:18:27 AM

They shouldn't even run those plays.  Have the option of not snapping it and getting a delay call with loss of down and time run off.

Yeah , because that's fair to the defense in a one score game...

The option of not snapping it ? That's friggin ridiculous. Why dont we just stop keeping score and make the game 2-hand touch while we're at it ?


How about instead you make it a "delay of game" if the purposely run a play that does not attempt to advance the ball ?





We may see it addressed in the offseason.  The league is all about preventing injuries nowadays.   Is there a more dangerous play that those last second scrums?

Did you watch some of the collisions involved on the onside kick directly before the knee downs???


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#44 : December 03, 2012, 09:54:16 AM


Was one of my favorite plays of the game. "**CENSORED** you, we bow to no one."

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