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Quote from: moose40 on December 10, 2012, 10:34:02 AMQuote from: Feel Real Good on December 10, 2012, 10:28:02 AMQuote from: SunnyD on December 10, 2012, 10:23:44 AMQuote from: moose40 on December 10, 2012, 10:19:32 AMIf people have used the excuse of bad coaching and bad systems for Freeman the previous three years, I'm going to say bad coaching and bad systems for Alex Smith. Didn't Harbaugh just go to the niners last year, and Smith made the playoffs? sure 17 tds last year isn't much, but only 5 picks with 3100 yards and a 61% completion rating.7 years of excuses for Alex Smith is a little more extreme than 3. Along with that, Harbaugh replaced Smith at his first opportunity and even attempted to do so sooner (Flirting with Peyton)Especially considering in one of those three years with bad coaching, Freeman had a great season.I agree with you there, he had one great season. I'm not saying replace him, I'm simply saying he is what he is , imo, which is an avg nfl qb. He's going to give us games like week 1 against the Panthers, and has the ability to fight back like he did against the Broncos, but then he's also going to have the bad games where all you remember is the skipped passes, and 10yard overthrows. --I'm not saying Smith is the answer (I think he's comparable to Freeman but a bit more accurate), and I'm not saying Freeman is the answer. I would just like to see the Bucs for once have an elite qb. One things for sure, I'm glad we have him instead of someone like Ponder. But I'll be honest and say I wanted the Bucs to draft Aaron Rodgers, and I wanted them to draft Andy Dalton. I'd take either of those over Freeman.dude....Smith is not an avg NFL QB. His completion percentage is a result of the offense they ran. lots of short stuff and the occasional play action.secondly, does Rodgers become Rodgers without the Packers staff and sitting behind Favre for a couple years? Does Steve Young become the same QB in Tampa as he did in SF? You wanted the Bucs to spend a high second rounder on Dalton the year after they drafted Freeman?youre all over the place.
Quote from: Feel Real Good on December 10, 2012, 10:28:02 AMQuote from: SunnyD on December 10, 2012, 10:23:44 AMQuote from: moose40 on December 10, 2012, 10:19:32 AMIf people have used the excuse of bad coaching and bad systems for Freeman the previous three years, I'm going to say bad coaching and bad systems for Alex Smith. Didn't Harbaugh just go to the niners last year, and Smith made the playoffs? sure 17 tds last year isn't much, but only 5 picks with 3100 yards and a 61% completion rating.7 years of excuses for Alex Smith is a little more extreme than 3. Along with that, Harbaugh replaced Smith at his first opportunity and even attempted to do so sooner (Flirting with Peyton)Especially considering in one of those three years with bad coaching, Freeman had a great season.I agree with you there, he had one great season. I'm not saying replace him, I'm simply saying he is what he is , imo, which is an avg nfl qb. He's going to give us games like week 1 against the Panthers, and has the ability to fight back like he did against the Broncos, but then he's also going to have the bad games where all you remember is the skipped passes, and 10yard overthrows. --I'm not saying Smith is the answer (I think he's comparable to Freeman but a bit more accurate), and I'm not saying Freeman is the answer. I would just like to see the Bucs for once have an elite qb. One things for sure, I'm glad we have him instead of someone like Ponder. But I'll be honest and say I wanted the Bucs to draft Aaron Rodgers, and I wanted them to draft Andy Dalton. I'd take either of those over Freeman.
Quote from: SunnyD on December 10, 2012, 10:23:44 AMQuote from: moose40 on December 10, 2012, 10:19:32 AMIf people have used the excuse of bad coaching and bad systems for Freeman the previous three years, I'm going to say bad coaching and bad systems for Alex Smith. Didn't Harbaugh just go to the niners last year, and Smith made the playoffs? sure 17 tds last year isn't much, but only 5 picks with 3100 yards and a 61% completion rating.7 years of excuses for Alex Smith is a little more extreme than 3. Along with that, Harbaugh replaced Smith at his first opportunity and even attempted to do so sooner (Flirting with Peyton)Especially considering in one of those three years with bad coaching, Freeman had a great season.
Quote from: moose40 on December 10, 2012, 10:19:32 AMIf people have used the excuse of bad coaching and bad systems for Freeman the previous three years, I'm going to say bad coaching and bad systems for Alex Smith. Didn't Harbaugh just go to the niners last year, and Smith made the playoffs? sure 17 tds last year isn't much, but only 5 picks with 3100 yards and a 61% completion rating.7 years of excuses for Alex Smith is a little more extreme than 3. Along with that, Harbaugh replaced Smith at his first opportunity and even attempted to do so sooner (Flirting with Peyton)
If people have used the excuse of bad coaching and bad systems for Freeman the previous three years, I'm going to say bad coaching and bad systems for Alex Smith. Didn't Harbaugh just go to the niners last year, and Smith made the playoffs? sure 17 tds last year isn't much, but only 5 picks with 3100 yards and a 61% completion rating.
I think it's time for tebow. And I'm almost serious. Bucs fans feel under appreciated by the media - check. Bucs fans need a reason to buy tickets - check. Freeman has awful timing and poor accuracy, so does tebow. Freeman has a great deep ball, so does tebow. Both are considered great leaders, both are great at comebacks.#freetebow
I'm not too excited about the prospect of reverting back to watching that level of QB play on Sundays. Something which I liken to watching your poo circle around the toliet
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.
Well, sure, Freeman should definitely look like Peyton manning out there with 3 backups blocking for him and the only original starters that are left are the 2 worst ones....
Quote from: SunnyD on December 10, 2012, 10:21:20 AMI'm not too excited about the prospect of reverting back to watching that level of QB play on Sundays. Something which I liken to watching your poo circle around the tolietWere you blindfolded during yesterdays game??...cause that's exactly what we saw...
Quote from: GatorBuc85 on December 10, 2012, 10:05:30 AMWell, sure, Freeman should definitely look like Peyton manning out there with 3 backups blocking for him and the only original starters that are left are the 2 worst ones....Why not? Foles looked like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning all wrapped into one and he was playing with 3 backups to the backup, 1 backup, and 1 starter on the OLine... his 2nd and 3rd string RB's, the backup TE, and the 3rd... 4th... and 5th WR's.