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#30 : December 21, 2012, 12:23:14 PM

I know for sure that he will never put up the TDs that Freeman can, but I think that he could win more games than Freeman.
What is it that he does better than Freeman that would lead to him winning more games?  Run the football?

Play up to competition.

Make first downs at important moments of the game (unlike Freeman who chokes most of the time).

Keep drives alive with his legs.

Be a leader.

Energize the offense and defense to play better.

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#31 : December 21, 2012, 12:32:12 PM

Aside from the Pittsburgh game, what games has he played that could be reasonably be described as playing up to the competition?  And even in that game, his completion percentage was under 50%.

Freeman's had plenty of fourth quarter comebacks.  Saying he chokes most of the time is a gross exaggeration.

"Being a leader" and "energizing the offense and defense to play better" are meaningless fluff.

Absolutely none of this should be taken as being much of an endorsement of Freeman.

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#32 : December 21, 2012, 12:41:26 PM

Aside from the Pittsburgh game, what games has he played that could be reasonably be described as playing up to the competition?  And even in that game, his completion percentage was under 50%.

Freeman's had plenty of fourth quarter comebacks.  Saying he chokes most of the time is a gross exaggeration.

"Being a leader" and "energizing the offense and defense to play better" are meaningless fluff.

Absolutely none of this should be taken as being much of an endorsement of Freeman.

Tebow won that Pittsburgh game, who cares about his completion percentage, he caused a win.

Freeman has amazing comebacks like against the Max Hall led Cardinals and Curtis Painter led Colts - games that shouldn't have been that close in the first place. Has he ever had a comeback versus an actually good team? He choked against the Falcons in 2010 and in 2012 when we had our chances to be in prime playoff spots.

Being a leader and energizing the team is not meaningless fluff. Just last game you saw the shortcomings of Freeman. The defense played their hearts out for a few drives here and there, and Freeman just went 3 and out or threw interceptions, then he yelled at his receivers. It's not only that game, Tebow makes a gutsy play and he gains the respect of his teammates, they know that he is playing to win, they will go all out. Freeman just doesn't look like he wants to win.


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#33 : December 21, 2012, 03:04:17 PM

We have a young team on the verge of being great. We don't need the distraction of a guy who doesn't know what position he should play or even if he could play at this level. He was a great fit at Florida, but even Steve Spurrior was better in the NF, and he stunk on ice.

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#34 : December 21, 2012, 03:24:31 PM

There is a positive to bringing Tebow in and having him our starting QB. We will be so bad, it would make us a lock for Johnny Football!

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#35 : December 21, 2012, 03:26:53 PM

When you make the playoffs, you don't have a shot at Johnny Football.   And Tebow would lead the Bucs to the playoffs.   There is no doubt.   He's a winner.


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#36 : December 21, 2012, 03:39:19 PM

He did a great job with his playing time in New York didn't he?

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#37 : December 21, 2012, 03:42:15 PM

   There is no doubt.   He's a winner.

You misspelled wiener.

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#38 : December 21, 2012, 03:43:07 PM

He didn't get any playing time in New York, did he?     

The Broncos gave him playing time and it resulted in the playoffs and a playoff win over the favored Steelers.   Ryan's an idiot to not play him.   And he would lead the Bucs to the playoffs if Schiano played him.   It takes guts to play a QB who is simply a winner and not a prototypical QB.    Obviously Ryan didn't have those guts and it may cost him his job.   Deservedly so.


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#39 : December 21, 2012, 03:45:45 PM

The Bronco's defense bailed him out. He won't have that luxury here. Maybe he could back up Lorig.

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#40 : December 21, 2012, 03:46:18 PM

   There is no doubt.   He's a winner.

You misspelled wiener.

If this is what you call a wiener, then that's your definition.   I call it a winner.



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#41 : December 21, 2012, 03:48:07 PM

The Bronco's defense bailed him out.

That Broncos D was 1-4 with Orton starting.   Tebow was the savior of the team that year.    Not much difference between Orton and Sanchez' skills.   Fox just realized it was smart to give Tebow a shot, Ryan never realized it.


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#42 : December 21, 2012, 03:50:41 PM

   There is no doubt.   He's a winner.

You misspelled wiener.

If this is what you call a wiener, then that's your definition.   I call it a winner.



I don't consider this a winner.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/01/live-blog-broncos-patriots-divisional-playoff-game/1#.UNTLjG_Aezw


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#44 : December 21, 2012, 03:59:02 PM

9/26. 136 yards. 34% completion. Yep...he sure led them alright.
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