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When do you know if a QB is a bust?
He's only 24.
I heard an expert commentator say that he thought once an NFL QB got 50+ NFL games under his belt, you'd know if he was going to be successful as an NFL QB.Anyone know where Josh stands as far as number of games goes?
Is Freeman pressing?“I don’t feel like he’s pressing. I think he’s an aggressive player who has skills and he wants to use them. As I said yesterday, it’s such a fine line between being a great play and pressing or forcing and you don’t ever want to get your quarterback afraid of saying, I’m going to put it in that window. Because now all of a sudden you’re a dud and we don’t want that ever. We never want to take that out of a player. The game management comes with experience. And by that I mean knowing how the whole game is going. We can talk through it and say we’re playing good defense here, let’s make sure, you practice dropping back and seeing the coverage and throwing the ball and that takes a lot of experience to know that one’s a close one, it’s a tight game, we need it, I’m going to take it or we’re doing a great job, let’s not take that one. That may sound easy but it’s not easy. It’s sitting there on a platter for you and you have the skill to do it, but I don’t think Josh is deficient in any of that in any way. He doesn’t have enough years and reps to be really, really great at it yet. And you look at any quarterback who is in that phase right now where he is, in that 50-game areas, that’s where they start to really get it. Now in college you only have them for four years, but if you have a four-year starter, at the end of his junior year, the beginning of his senior year, they really start to get that. And Josh is getting it. He is. You can see him getting, he’s got such a better understanding of the whole game. And I think as I’ve said many times over a long period of time, we’ll get it all of a sudden. But it takes all those reps and all those opportunities because situations are so unique, because a quarterback begins to formulate his own philosophy, his own kind of how he feels it happening in the game. And it would be easy for me to say I think he’s pressing, that’s why he threw four interceptions, but I don’t. I think it’s such a fine line. I look and I say, that one I wish we didn’t throw. That one, I’m good with him throwing it. If they pick it off, let’s get him on the ground and go play defense, because if he doesn’t throw that one then you never get to see that one. And to me that’s a fine line you walk. The ones where you sit there and say, argghhh, those you don’t throw.”http://www.pewterreport.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=8663:Schiano%20Says%20Freeman%20Isn%27t%20Pressing
Turner was obviously run out of town on a rail for the poor job he did with Freeman.
Quote from: dalbuc on December 26, 2012, 10:00:19 AMQuote from: Morgan on December 26, 2012, 06:34:03 AMgood point - most busts actually were successful in collegeWe drafted him in R1 and we expect R1 results.to me the problem is his completeion % which puts him in the same realm as Jake Locker and John Skelton right now. He's never been accurate but he's gotten a lot worse this year. His QBR puts him in the realm of Ryan Fitzpatrick.A franchise QB is a guy that on 3rd and 7 you think, really know, can make the throw to move the chains consistently...does anyone feel that way about Josh right now?I'll tell you this... I'd have more faith in Freeman making a 3rd and 15 than a 3rd and 7.
Quote from: Morgan on December 26, 2012, 06:34:03 AMgood point - most busts actually were successful in collegeWe drafted him in R1 and we expect R1 results.to me the problem is his completeion % which puts him in the same realm as Jake Locker and John Skelton right now. He's never been accurate but he's gotten a lot worse this year. His QBR puts him in the realm of Ryan Fitzpatrick.A franchise QB is a guy that on 3rd and 7 you think, really know, can make the throw to move the chains consistently...does anyone feel that way about Josh right now?
good point - most busts actually were successful in college
i was gonna do a long response but figured it was pointless...because i dont know the plan. cant defend something i have no idea on.
any QB coming here is a bust. It's once they leave here that the bust label goes away.