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Oh yea, I know Politicians lie, it is when they use the governmental assets to create lies - you know - the employees of the Federal government - their lies are become more difficult to know what the truth is. Get this odd feeling when folks whose salaries I pay lie to me - surely it doesn't bother everyone - but it bothers me.
Wait, you mean that both candidates lie during campaigns? NO WAY!
To me it's pretty basic, in that the USA has a ton of tax revenues to work from. That said, those tax dollars are not optimized.
Quote from: dbucfan on December 26, 2012, 09:42:08 PMOh yea, I know Politicians lie, it is when they use the governmental assets to create lies - you know - the employees of the Federal government - their lies are become more difficult to know what the truth is. Get this odd feeling when folks whose salaries I pay lie to me - surely it doesn't bother everyone - but it bothers me. I think it's bothersome in general but you'd be hard pressed to find folks who were motivated to get out and vote because Obama and the democrats promised them economic freedom. The reality that the right chooses to ignore is that most ppl voted Obama b/c he presented a more social moderate stance than the fearmongering right that suggest a raped womens body has the mechanics to abort a pregnancy...The right gift wrapped the white house for Obama and it's articles like this that show how out of touch they still are with the majority of americans.
Quote from: Rusty on December 27, 2012, 11:16:53 AMTo me it's pretty basic, in that the USA has a ton of tax revenues to work from. That said, those tax dollars are not optimized.Understatement of the millennium for me, Rusty.
Quote from: wreck ship on December 27, 2012, 09:59:09 AMQuote from: dbucfan on December 26, 2012, 09:42:08 PMOh yea, I know Politicians lie, it is when they use the governmental assets to create lies - you know - the employees of the Federal government - their lies are become more difficult to know what the truth is. Get this odd feeling when folks whose salaries I pay lie to me - surely it doesn't bother everyone - but it bothers me. I think it's bothersome in general but you'd be hard pressed to find folks who were motivated to get out and vote because Obama and the democrats promised them economic freedom. The reality that the right chooses to ignore is that most ppl voted Obama b/c he presented a more social moderate stance than the fearmongering right that suggest a raped womens body has the mechanics to abort a pregnancy...The right gift wrapped the white house for Obama and it's articles like this that show how out of touch they still are with the majority of americans.First, if people believed the stuff from that article in the first place, they got what they deserved. Second, if people voted for a Presidential candidate because of what a dumbassed SENATE candidate blurted out, again, it doesn't say much for the deductive powers of your average Democratic voter.
wreck ship, I agree the Republicans are out of touch with the majority of Americans. I am a moderate. I am also a business consultant fwith over 30 years doing international turn arounds, so I have some idea about finances. To me it's pretty basic, in that the USA has a ton of tax revenues to work from. That said, those tax dollars are not optimized. IMHO, we can't just keep raising taxes to cover the sins of our leaders both Republican and Democrat, who just keep on spending and passing the tab onto the taxpayers. At some point it becomes a downward spiral and I have seen it in business many times. The company has tons of sales, gets lax with it's spending, keeps passing the costs onto their customes and one day, they realize the market has left them in the dust, they are up to their eyeballs in debt with creditors, vendors, bankers; margins are non existent and the internal politics placing blame are a cancer that eventually destroys the fabric of the company. Our politicians focus on getting reelected and party control at all levels, when the welfare of all Americans are at stake. The upper crust, older white 'haves' are now in trouble because the minority is now the majority (African Americans/Latinos/Asians/Women/Youth/Gay & Lesbian). That may be reality but the Democrats will eventually have the same task the Republicans have, appealing to ALL Americans, while ensuring the financial future and well being of our children and grand children. Those politicians that solely focus on getting reelected and party politics and posturing will hopefully get run out of office and a new breed of politician will come to the forefront.