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« : December 27, 2012, 01:53:54 PM »

Unfortunately, it's that time of year again.  With postseason dreams long gone, we look to determine which draft pick the Bucs might get.  Last year I correctly predicted the 5th pick.  This year is more difficult to predict the pick, so at the end of this are a couple of tables that will allow one to determine the pick based on their predictions of the outcome of games.  The following assumes no more ties!  First, an initial look at the possibilities:

Pick        Team               W-L          SOS              Remaining opponent


This data is based on the link posted by BucsBay, which is actually closer to the final outcome than the other sites.  The other sites aren't factoring in, for example, the Falcons twice in the SOS yet because we haven't yet played them twice.  The numbers above already include the Falcon's current 13 wins twice into the strength of schedule.

Based on the facts that

-Week 17 is entirely divisional games
-Teams play their division (twice), an entire in-conference division (Bucs: NFC East), an entire out of conference division (Bucs: AFC West), and two other 'wildcard' games

there is actually a tight range that the SOS will lie in at this point.  First, converting the SOS to opponent wins:



Based on the facts above, each team will pick up 6 to 8 SOS Wins if they win, and 8 to 10 SOS Wins if they lose.  For example, for the Bucs SOS, either CAR or NO will win (+2), and half of AFC West and NFC East will win (+4).  STL and MIN are wildcards.  If the Bucs win, that's 6 to 8 SOS wins, but if they lose, it's +2 from the Falcons, so their SOS gets higher, thus 8 to 10 SOS wins.  So, for each team:



Entangled teams: BUF/NYJ, CLE/PIT, CAR/NO.  Some observations from the table:

1) We will not be picking before BUF and CLE.  If they lose, we have a better record.  If they win and we lose, their SOS will be lower than ours.  With a loss, the Jets might have the same record as us, and they have an overlapping SOS range, so root for the Jets to beat the Bills (and PIT to beat CLE).

So at this point, we pick at "best", 8th.

2) If we lose, and ARI wins, they will pick after us.  If SD loses, they will pick before us.  If we win and PIT loses, they will be pick before us.

3) We won't pick after NO.  If they lose and we win, their SOS will be higher anyways, so root for CAR to win (if they do, then they will also pick after us regardless).

4) With a loss, our "competing" teams are ARI, SD, NYJ, and TEN.  With a win, our "competing" teams are NYJ, MIA, PIT, and CAR.

So at this point, we pick at "worst", 15th.

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To summaries the possibilities:

TB wildcards: STL/MIN

IF TB LOSES, WE PICK 8TH HIGHEST,  12TH LOWEST

With TB losing...
If ____         wins      /      loses      then they pick...

ARI            after TB            before TB
SD            after TB            before TB
NYJ            after TB            depends
TEN         depends         before TB

TEN wildcards: PIT/SD
NYJ wildcards:  PIT/SD

IF TB WINS, WE PICK 11TH LOWEST, 15TH HIGHEST

With TB winning...
If ____         wins      /      loses      then they pick...
CAR         after TB            before TB
PIT            after TB            before TB
MIA            after TB            depends
NYJ            depends         before TB

NYJ wildcards: PIT/SD
MIA wildcards: CIN/OAK

The "depends" sections depend on the 'wildcard' teams that each team plays. 

For all depends scenarios, the team would pick after TB only if they get more wildcard SOS wins.  Equal or less wildcard wins means they pick before TB.  For example, for TEN (wildcards: PIT/SD), assuming they win and TB loses, if PIT wins and SD loses, then TB needs both wildcards (STL/MIN) to lose in order to pick before TEN.  In other words, the scenarios all slightly favor the other team picking before TB assuming equal chance for any team to win this weekend.

So if one predicts the relevant games this weekend, one can easily see where TB picks.  For example:

Predict that TB loses: I'm guessing TEN and ARI loses, and SD, NYJ wins.  That means TB picks 11th.

Predict that TB wins: I'm guessing PIT wins, and the rest lose, with CIN/OAK also losing.  That would mean we pick 14th.


...and with that, I'll just say go Bucs!  Finishing the season strong is better than gaining a few spots in the middle of the 1st, IMO.


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« #1 : December 27, 2012, 04:02:54 PM »

Do you have a job?

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« #2 : December 27, 2012, 04:06:01 PM »

Thank you for doing all of that.

There\'s a very real chance the Bucs waive [Revis] before next season. At the very least, it will be a discussion worth having.

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« #3 : December 27, 2012, 04:44:04 PM »

Yeah thanks. So 8 to 15.

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« #4 : December 27, 2012, 06:06:43 PM »

Do you have a job?

I do.  I'm on vacation with the family now, same as last year when I did this.


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« #5 : December 27, 2012, 06:10:23 PM »

I'll think about our draft position after we beat the Falcons.


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« #6 : December 27, 2012, 06:27:08 PM »



...and with that, I'll just say go Bucs!  Finishing the season strong is better than gaining a few spots in the middle of the 1st, IMO.

agree 110%
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