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From what I've seen Schiano is doing very well behind the microphone w/ the media. No signs of stress/meltdowns/irritation with dumb questions - he's doing well. Looking forward to 2013.
Quote from: 1sparkybuc on December 30, 2012, 07:16:19 PMQuote from: JavaRay on December 30, 2012, 07:28:52 AMI'm comparing the player talent in 2008 to this current player talent. This current talent is better. This team should be better than it is.If you want to compare Schiano to Raheem, sure he's an upgrade. Who wouldn't be? But that's not a comparison that anyone would want if they want to win. He needs to be compared to the last actual NFL head coach the team had - Gruden. And he's obviously worse than Gruden. Since Gruden was fired to "improve" the team, shouldn't Schiano be an upgrade over Gruden? If he's not, it's time to move on to another coach.It's time to move on to another coach.What total hogwash. Schiano's very first year in the league and he eclipsed every mark on offense rushing and passing. More yardage, more TDs, more everything, and he's not touted as an offensive genius. Schiano doesn't have Monte Kiffin running the defense for him. Ronde Barber has played for every HC from Tony Dungy on. I'd say his first choice would be between Schiano and Dungy, based on character and leadership. Schiano knows how to build a team. Gruden knows how to dismantle one. Schiano reminds me of Vince Lombardi. Gruden reminds me of a psycho doll I saw in reviews of a very bad horror flick.Wow...Schiano is suposed to be a defensive minded guy...worst Bucs D ever? Sullivan is running HIS OFFENSE. Schiano is running his DEFENSE. Uhhhh....brother...stay off the drugs man....Lombardi? Every shred of credibility just left you with that ridiculous comparison. Wow....just wow...
Quote from: JavaRay on December 30, 2012, 07:28:52 AMI'm comparing the player talent in 2008 to this current player talent. This current talent is better. This team should be better than it is.If you want to compare Schiano to Raheem, sure he's an upgrade. Who wouldn't be? But that's not a comparison that anyone would want if they want to win. He needs to be compared to the last actual NFL head coach the team had - Gruden. And he's obviously worse than Gruden. Since Gruden was fired to "improve" the team, shouldn't Schiano be an upgrade over Gruden? If he's not, it's time to move on to another coach.It's time to move on to another coach.What total hogwash. Schiano's very first year in the league and he eclipsed every mark on offense rushing and passing. More yardage, more TDs, more everything, and he's not touted as an offensive genius. Schiano doesn't have Monte Kiffin running the defense for him. Ronde Barber has played for every HC from Tony Dungy on. I'd say his first choice would be between Schiano and Dungy, based on character and leadership. Schiano knows how to build a team. Gruden knows how to dismantle one. Schiano reminds me of Vince Lombardi. Gruden reminds me of a psycho doll I saw in reviews of a very bad horror flick.
I'm comparing the player talent in 2008 to this current player talent. This current talent is better. This team should be better than it is.If you want to compare Schiano to Raheem, sure he's an upgrade. Who wouldn't be? But that's not a comparison that anyone would want if they want to win. He needs to be compared to the last actual NFL head coach the team had - Gruden. And he's obviously worse than Gruden. Since Gruden was fired to "improve" the team, shouldn't Schiano be an upgrade over Gruden? If he's not, it's time to move on to another coach.It's time to move on to another coach.
I'd like to hear from the other posters that think Schiano and Lombardi should even be mentioned n the same sentence. Again, I think we possibly might be headed in the right direction. The defense is pathetic. We finished on a 1-5 slide and managed to beat a lifeless, insouciant Falcon team. I think we played inspired today and coach should get credit for that but please spare me the comparisons to an all-time great coach. It makes you sound foolish.PS If you think that an old school football philosophy is going to work in todays NFL....I think you are wrong. Modern football rules are unbalanced towards offenses. Leading the league in rushing defense is WORTHLESS in 2012. Believe it. Hopefully Schiano sees this and makes major changes to his college scheme. ANd yes, he brought it with him from Rutgers. Not good. Your buddy Lombardi would not try to run the Cumberland defense in the pros...agreed?
I'd like to hear from the other posters that think Schiano and Lombardi should even be mentioned n the same sentence.
FRG is the most logical poster on this board. You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.
I think Schiano has all the good parts of Lombardi, Shula, Landry, Walsh, Parcells, and Belichick.
Man you are a whiny little biatch. You seem to think that you are an expert on lombardi and schiano. I call total bs. You seem to be an expert whiner though. Good job. I love when posters have to rely on personal attacks. I'm just returning your weak ass serve.
Quote from: The Anomaly on December 30, 2012, 08:08:25 PMI'd like to hear from the other posters that think Schiano and Lombardi should even be mentioned n the same sentence. Again, I think we possibly might be headed in the right direction. The defense is pathetic. We finished on a 1-5 slide and managed to beat a lifeless, insouciant Falcon team. I think we played inspired today and coach should get credit for that but please spare me the comparisons to an all-time great coach. It makes you sound foolish.PS If you think that an old school football philosophy is going to work in todays NFL....I think you are wrong. Modern football rules are unbalanced towards offenses. Leading the league in rushing defense is WORTHLESS in 2012. Believe it. Hopefully Schiano sees this and makes major changes to his college scheme. ANd yes, he brought it with him from Rutgers. Not good. Your buddy Lombardi would not try to run the Cumberland defense in the pros...agreed?Agree, its a different game now.
Quote from: The Anti-Java on December 30, 2012, 09:04:42 PMQuote from: The Anomaly on December 30, 2012, 08:08:25 PMI'd like to hear from the other posters that think Schiano and Lombardi should even be mentioned n the same sentence. Again, I think we possibly might be headed in the right direction. The defense is pathetic. We finished on a 1-5 slide and managed to beat a lifeless, insouciant Falcon team. I think we played inspired today and coach should get credit for that but please spare me the comparisons to an all-time great coach. It makes you sound foolish.PS If you think that an old school football philosophy is going to work in todays NFL....I think you are wrong. Modern football rules are unbalanced towards offenses. Leading the league in rushing defense is WORTHLESS in 2012. Believe it. Hopefully Schiano sees this and makes major changes to his college scheme. ANd yes, he brought it with him from Rutgers. Not good. Your buddy Lombardi would not try to run the Cumberland defense in the pros...agreed?Agree, its a different game now.Yea...If our players were born in the 20's and 30's, then Schiano would be a good coach player relation wise with his authoritarian style, but the players were born in the 70's80's and 90's!! You can't get the best out of your team if your players don't respect you as coach........and you don't allow them to be men.... My way or the highway is a dead coaching style today....Unless you are Bill B.
and you don't allow them to be men....
Quote from: The Anomaly on December 31, 2012, 08:05:19 AMMan you are a whiny little biatch. You seem to think that you are an expert on lombardi and schiano. I call total bs. You seem to be an expert whiner though. Good job. I love when posters have to rely on personal attacks. I'm just returning your weak ass serve.For one, I actually remember Vince Lombardi from his glory years. The week that he died his team (Redskins) played an exhibition game in Tampa. As for Schiano, during his tenure at Rutgers I have lived in Staten Island NY and just across the Delaware River in Pennsylvania. I'm no expert but I am quite familiar with the backgrounds of both men. Obviously you can't tell the difference between characteristics and actual achievements. If you happen to be around someone you recognize as intelligent, ask them to explain the difference, and tell them I said good luck.As for the personal attacks dumbazzz, go back to the first reply from you and have that intelligent person explain to you what you wrote. Again, tell him I said good luck and thank him for his patience. It's always nice to help the mentally impaired. Oh yeah, you also have no sense of humor, and I take back that "happy new year" I so graciously gave you earlier. I hope you have a miserable new year to go along with your miserable personality and disposition. I hope the Bucs go undefeated and you grow ulcers with every victory.