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#285 : March 01, 2013, 08:32:37 PM

I had Scott in the 6th round in my mock,  think he's a poor man's Russell Wilson. He seems to be moving up draft boards.


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#286 : March 03, 2013, 02:22:08 AM

Post Combine Offseason and Mock:

Start with releasing Wright and Black (with injury settlement).  Let Blount and Miller walk.

Resign Bennett to 5 yr. 36 million
Tender Daniel Teo-Nesheim
Barber comes back if he wants 1 yr 3 million

Free Agent Signings:
Sean Smith 5 yr. 42 million. We'll get him, but we'll have to outbid some teams for him.
Brent Grimes 2 yr 12 million.  I'm going to go against my gut feeling and blindly hope the rumors are true.
Sammie Lee Hill 4yr 12 million.  He can stuff the run and get after the passer.  He's only 26, and played for the 1.26 tender price last season.  3 mill/year is a nice pay increase.
Martellus Bennett 5 yr 25 million.  Part of a package deal with his brother.
LaRod Stephens Howling 3 yr 6 million. Hoping our O-line, when healthy, can bring out the best in this ultra quick scatback.



Mock Draft:
Round 1: Jarvis Jones LB - OK, I know what you're all saying.  You don't want another injured player or a LB that won't be on the field enough.  First off let me address the injury situation.  My theory is that Mark "The Draft DOMinator" Dominik is the one spreading rumors that teams are dropping Jones off of the board due to the neck injury.  He's pulling strings and making this top 5 caliber player drop into his lap at 13.  Spinal specialists have given the all clear, but Dom is whispering in media's ear telling them that it's still a major concern.  In all seriousness, though, the medical team needs to evaluate it.  If they say he's good, then this should be the pick.  If they don't then it shouldn't be.  Next, let me say that Mason Foster would be the player coming off the field.  Lavonte already wears the headset and calls the plays.  He'd be left in as a coverage LB, and Jones would be our "Joker".  He's a high character guy, and a leader on the field. 

Round 2: Jamar Taylor CB - A little undersized, but plays bigger than his measurements indicate.  Always around the ball, not afraid of contact.  Performed well during Senior Bowl week and at the combine.  Reportedly has a high football IQ, good character, and a great work ethic.  Would start out as our Nickel back and eventually supplant Grimes in a couple of years.

Round 3a: Logan Ryan DB - Here's a curveball.  We draft Ryan, but not to play CB.  He'll eventually be our new FS.  He ran a disappointing 40 time which brings into question his ability to turn and run with the elite WR's.  He is extremely physical and is considered the best CB in this year's class in run support.  He's familiar with Schiano's system and is another hard working, high character player.  See my thread on the Red Board as to why else I think he could excel at FS.

Round 3b: Stedman Bailey or Ryan Sw0pe WR - Hopefully one of these two slips to round 3, and we trade our 2nd 4th round and our 5th round picks to move up and get our next slot WR.  I don't think Dominik is done putting weapons around Freeman to give him every chance to succeed.  At the very least, it may make the next QB have an easier transition if Freeman proves he's not the franchise.  After S**CENSORED**e's combine, I think he may go in the 2nd.

Round 4: Jordan Mills OT - Really played well during Senior Bowl week.  Will add competition and depth to the RT spot.  Could end up starting early on.

Round 6: Luke Marquardt OT - Small school project, but is very athletic for his 6'8" 315 lb frame.  Former basketball player.  His college position coach is Jackie Slater, a HOF tackle.  I'm not sure why he didn't workout at combine, but his size and muscular build reportedly had scouts buzzing.  If he is able to workout before the draft his stock should climb.  He'd be a good project for Bostad.

Round 7: Quanterus Smith DE - OK, I'm partial to small school projects.  This guy was one of the nation's sack leaders before tearing his ACL.  He had 2 sacks against the vaunted Alabama offensive line.

There you have it.  This would vastly improve our secondary and build for the future with Taylor and Ryan.  Hill and Jones in addition to Bennett and the rest of the D-line would improve our pass rush.  Freeman would have more receiving options in Howling, Bennett, and the new slot guy.  The O-line would add depth and competition.  The two areas I wish I could figure out a way to improve would be QB competition and interior O-line depth.  Oh well, you can't fill all the holes in one offseason.
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#287 : March 03, 2013, 07:52:42 AM

Post Combine Offseason and Mock:

Start with releasing Wright and Black (with injury settlement).  Let Blount and Miller walk.

Resign Bennett to 5 yr. 36 million
Tender Daniel Teo-Nesheim
Barber comes back if he wants 1 yr 3 million

Free Agent Signings:
Sean Smith 5 yr. 42 million. We'll get him, but we'll have to outbid some teams for him.
Brent Grimes 2 yr 12 million.  I'm going to go against my gut feeling and blindly hope the rumors are true.
Sammie Lee Hill 4yr 12 million.  He can stuff the run and get after the passer.  He's only 26, and played for the 1.26 tender price last season.  3 mill/year is a nice pay increase.
Martellus Bennett 5 yr 25 million.  Part of a package deal with his brother.
LaRod Stephens Howling 3 yr 6 million. Hoping our O-line, when healthy, can bring out the best in this ultra quick scatback.



Mock Draft:
Round 1: Jarvis Jones LB - OK, I know what you're all saying.  You don't want another injured player or a LB that won't be on the field enough.  First off let me address the injury situation.  My theory is that Mark "The Draft DOMinator" Dominik is the one spreading rumors that teams are dropping Jones off of the board due to the neck injury.  He's pulling strings and making this top 5 caliber player drop into his lap at 13.  Spinal specialists have given the all clear, but Dom is whispering in media's ear telling them that it's still a major concern.  In all seriousness, though, the medical team needs to evaluate it.  If they say he's good, then this should be the pick.  If they don't then it shouldn't be.  Next, let me say that Mason Foster would be the player coming off the field.  Lavonte already wears the headset and calls the plays.  He'd be left in as a coverage LB, and Jones would be our "Joker".  He's a high character guy, and a leader on the field. 

Round 2: Jamar Taylor CB - A little undersized, but plays bigger than his measurements indicate.  Always around the ball, not afraid of contact.  Performed well during Senior Bowl week and at the combine.  Reportedly has a high football IQ, good character, and a great work ethic.  Would start out as our Nickel back and eventually supplant Grimes in a couple of years.

Round 3a: Logan Ryan DB - Here's a curveball.  We draft Ryan, but not to play CB.  He'll eventually be our new FS.  He ran a disappointing 40 time which brings into question his ability to turn and run with the elite WR's.  He is extremely physical and is considered the best CB in this year's class in run support.  He's familiar with Schiano's system and is another hard working, high character player.  See my thread on the Red Board as to why else I think he could excel at FS.

Round 3b: Stedman Bailey or Ryan Sw0pe WR - Hopefully one of these two slips to round 3, and we trade our 2nd 4th round and our 5th round picks to move up and get our next slot WR.  I don't think Dominik is done putting weapons around Freeman to give him every chance to succeed.  At the very least, it may make the next QB have an easier transition if Freeman proves he's not the franchise.  After S**CENSORED**e's combine, I think he may go in the 2nd.

Round 4: Jordan Mills OT - Really played well during Senior Bowl week.  Will add competition and depth to the RT spot.  Could end up starting early on.

Round 6: Luke Marquardt OT - Small school project, but is very athletic for his 6'8" 315 lb frame.  Former basketball player.  His college position coach is Jackie Slater, a HOF tackle.  I'm not sure why he didn't workout at combine, but his size and muscular build reportedly had scouts buzzing.  If he is able to workout before the draft his stock should climb.  He'd be a good project for Bostad.

Round 7: Quanterus Smith DE - OK, I'm partial to small school projects.  This guy was one of the nation's sack leaders before tearing his ACL.  He had 2 sacks against the vaunted Alabama offensive line.

There you have it.  This would vastly improve our secondary and build for the future with Taylor and Ryan.  Hill and Jones in addition to Bennett and the rest of the D-line would improve our pass rush.  Freeman would have more receiving options in Howling, Bennett, and the new slot guy.  The O-line would add depth and competition.  The two areas I wish I could figure out a way to improve would be QB competition and interior O-line depth.  Oh well, you can't fill all the holes in one offseason.

Not bad  , although the 1st round pick still scares me  ....intriquing though....

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#288 : March 03, 2013, 09:08:52 AM

Post Combine Offseason and Mock:

Start with releasing Wright and Black (with injury settlement).  Let Blount and Miller walk.

Resign Bennett to 5 yr. 36 million
Tender Daniel Teo-Nesheim
Barber comes back if he wants 1 yr 3 million

Free Agent Signings:
Sean Smith 5 yr. 42 million. We'll get him, but we'll have to outbid some teams for him.
Brent Grimes 2 yr 12 million.  I'm going to go against my gut feeling and blindly hope the rumors are true.
Sammie Lee Hill 4yr 12 million.  He can stuff the run and get after the passer.  He's only 26, and played for the 1.26 tender price last season.  3 mill/year is a nice pay increase.
Martellus Bennett 5 yr 25 million.  Part of a package deal with his brother.
LaRod Stephens Howling 3 yr 6 million. Hoping our O-line, when healthy, can bring out the best in this ultra quick scatback.



Sean Smith won't be had for $7M/year. More like $9M-$10M/year. Maybe more.

Grimes won't be had for $6M/year. More likely $8M. Probably won't agree to anything less than four years either. He might agree to clauses due to his injury, but he is an older, proven veteran player still in his prime. I don't know why people think he would agree to a 2 year deal.

The rest look a little low too, but Smith and Grimes jumped out at me as unrealistic. Wouldn't mind Smith and Grimes though. That sure would be an instant upgrade.



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#289 : March 03, 2013, 09:15:35 AM

Here are a couple things i'm pretty sure of regarding the draft depending on what we do in FA:

-If we don't sign a TE look for us to trade up from the 3rd Round to 2nd Round to snag Zach Ertz/ Tyler Eifert
-We will NOT be drafting a CB in Round 1
-We will draft either a DE, DT or RT in Round 1
-Even if we sign 2 CBs in FA we will most likely trade back up into Round 1 to snag John Banks or Des Trufant


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#290 : March 03, 2013, 10:17:17 AM

Post Combine Offseason and Mock:

Start with releasing Wright and Black (with injury settlement).  Let Blount and Miller walk.

Resign Bennett to 5 yr. 36 million
Tender Daniel Teo-Nesheim
Barber comes back if he wants 1 yr 3 million

Free Agent Signings:
Sean Smith 5 yr. 42 million. We'll get him, but we'll have to outbid some teams for him.
Brent Grimes 2 yr 12 million.  I'm going to go against my gut feeling and blindly hope the rumors are true.
Sammie Lee Hill 4yr 12 million.  He can stuff the run and get after the passer.  He's only 26, and played for the 1.26 tender price last season.  3 mill/year is a nice pay increase.
Martellus Bennett 5 yr 25 million.  Part of a package deal with his brother.
LaRod Stephens Howling 3 yr 6 million. Hoping our O-line, when healthy, can bring out the best in this ultra quick scatback.



Sean Smith won't be had for $7M/year. More like $9M-$10M/year. Maybe more.

Grimes won't be had for $6M/year. More likely $8M. Probably won't agree to anything less than four years either. He might agree to clauses due to his injury, but he is an older, proven veteran player still in his prime. I don't know why people think he would agree to a 2 year deal.

The rest look a little low too, but Smith and Grimes jumped out at me as unrealistic. Wouldn't mind Smith and Grimes though. That sure would be an instant upgrade.
You may want to check your math, 5 years 42 million ends up being about 8.4 million/year.  I took his and Michael Bennett's numbers from Rotoworlds free agency predictions.  You're probably right about being low, though.  Wishful thinking on my part.

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#291 : March 03, 2013, 11:07:24 AM

My bad. Thought it said 6 year $42 for Smith.


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#292 : March 03, 2013, 10:12:32 PM

Here are a couple things i'm pretty sure of regarding the draft depending on what we do in FA:
-We will NOT be drafting a CB in Round 1
-Even if we sign 2 CBs in FA we will most likely trade back up into Round 1 to snag John Banks or Des Trufant
Quite the contradiction  ;)

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#293 : March 04, 2013, 06:35:28 AM

Here are a couple things i'm pretty sure of regarding the draft depending on what we do in FA:
-We will NOT be drafting a CB in Round 1
-Even if we sign 2 CBs in FA we will most likely trade back up into Round 1 to snag John Banks or Des Trufant
Quite the contradiction  ;)

No I mean we trade up to the end of the first to snag a QB, We won't pick a CB with the pick #13

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#294 : March 04, 2013, 10:22:01 AM

is this thread for what we think the team will do, or what we want to the team to do?

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#295 : March 04, 2013, 10:39:53 AM

is this thread for what we think the team will do, or what we want to the team to do?
That's a great question. Mine was a little of both.

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#296 : March 04, 2013, 11:01:42 AM

is this thread for what we think the team will do, or what we want to the team to do?

mostly what we want them to do. god only knows what will actually happen. its hard to really guess until free agency is over

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#297 : March 05, 2013, 02:31:12 AM

For me, the signings of Smith, Grimes, and the Bennetts were more what I think they'll do based on the info that PR and other sources are putting out there.  If money weren't an object they'd be my first choice, too.  I'm not willing to pay Smith 9-10 million and an aged, recovering Grimes 8 million, though.  I'd probably say target Cox and Toler.  They are still uprades, but would give us some cap flexibility. 

The draft I outlined is more about players I like, and filling needs we have. 

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#298 : March 05, 2013, 06:17:23 AM

POST COMBINE MOCK (3RD EDITION)

I won't re-hash what I believe our team needs are but they are listed below in my previous mocks....

Now that the combine is over and players have fallen or raised their stock, here is my opinion of what we do:

Rd 1, Pick 13:    Star Lutolelei, DT/Utah (falls with OT rising and medical concerns)
Rd 1, Pick 29:    Tyler Eifert, TE/ND (Trade our 2nd Pick - #43 and NE's orig 4th - #123 to move ahead of Atl)
Rd 2, Pick 54:    Logan Ryan, CB/Rutgers (Trade Pick 73 and our 5th Rd Pick - #140 to Miami, who needs talent)
Rd 4, Pick 109:  Devin Taylor, DE/South Carolina 
Rd 6, Pick 173:  Zeke Motta, SS/Notre Dame
Rd 7, Pick 202:  Luke Marquardt, OT/Azusa Pacific 


Post Senior Bowl/Pre Combine Mock:

Going into 2013 there are several areas of improvement that needs to addressed: 

Center:  Zuttah is serviceable as C/G but in my opinion is the root cause for collapses in pass pro.
ROT:  I like Dotson as a swing tackle but an upgrade is desparately needed on the edge.
TE:  I like the combo of Clarke/Stocker; however, neither serves our true need.  The addition of a great TE would mitigate our need for a great slot receiver.

DE:  Speed, speed and more speed...
DT:  A big penetrating body that can rush and play run defense is required
MLB/SLB:  Either replace Foster in the middle or add Black's replacement.
CB:  An entire revamping is necessary....to include nickel
FS:  A sideline to sideline ball hawk....

Free Agency:  If we truly wanna upgrade, two additions at a minimum are necessary.  I would like to see us target Sean Smith and Glenn Dorsey.

Draft:

Trade our 1st to St Louis for Picks 22 and 78...

Rd 1, Pick 22:    Tyler Eifert, TE/ND (Zach Ertz is alternate selection)
Rd 2, Pick 43:    Jonathan Banks, CB/Miss State (Press Coverage and run on DT's allows him to drop)
Rd 2, Pick ?:      David Amerson, CB/FS NC State  (Pick acquired packaging Pick 78 & Rd 4 Pick 123 from NE)
Rd 3, Pick 73:    Will Davis, CB/Utah State (alternate selection of McFadden, CB/SDST)
Rd 4, Pick 109:  Marcus Lattimore, RB/South Carolina 
Rd 5, Pick 140:  Terron Armstead, ROT/Arkansas Pine-Bluff (better than Wagner and Pugh)
Rd 6, Pick 173:  Ace Sanders, WR/South Carolina (fill slot need and return duties)
Rd 7:                  No selection, Traded to NE in Talib deal.....


This is a pre-Sr Bowl / Combine Mock....requiring us to move our both of our 4th and 5th Round selctions....moving us up back into the 2nd and 3rd Rounds

This mock is intended to upgrade both sides of the ball and key positional needs other than RB, which this selection sets the tone for 2014.....

Rd 1:  Sheldon Richardson, DT Missouri (An NT that can penetrate)
Rd 2:  Will Davis, CB Utah (Size, speed and toughness to support run def)
TRADE UP:  Rd 2:  David Amerson, CB NC State (can play CB or move to FS)
Rd 3:  Travis Swanson, C  Arkansas (strong and intellgient, great punch and feet)
TRADE UP:  Rd 3:  Ricky Wagner, RT Wisconsin or Kyle Long, RT Oregon (Wagner may go earlier) 
Rd 6:  Marcus Lattimore, RB South Carolina (placed on injured reserve for one year)
Rd 7:  Ace Sanders, WR/KR/PR South Carolina (can play slot and handle both return duties)

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#299 : March 05, 2013, 12:32:34 PM

Draft. 2.0
1st - OLB - Jarvis Jones - Georgia
2nd - CB - Jonathan Banks - Mississippi St.
3rd - OT - Rick Wagner -  Wisconsin
4th - OT- Terron Armstead- Arkansas-Pine Bluff
4th - DT - Everett Dawkins- Florida State
5th - QB  - Landry Jones - Oklahoma
6th - CB - Marc Anthony - Cal
6th - WR - Ryan S**CENSORED**e - Texas A & M

Out of this draft class you would have 2 immediate starters in Jarvis Jones and Jonathan Banks. A potential starter at OT in Rick Wagner (our OL coach is from Wisconsin). Wagner can also play all the interior positions and be Donald Penn eventual replacement at LT.  Everyone is going to rip me for the Landry Jones pick but the Bucs have been scouting him heavily since 2010 when McCoy was drafted. For better or worse I think he's a Buccaneer on day 3 of the draft. S**CENSORED**e while very fast, is a raw  talent and will need time to develop.

The kid I really like but just can't get past his medical is CB DJ Hayden. He could be an outstanding sleeper pick if he checks out medically.
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