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#765 : April 24, 2013, 07:36:15 PM

I like it Derek. Whether or not the first three choices will be available is debatable.

When you see Moore on film he screams 1st rounder. If Greene was 2" taller he would be a 1st rounder too. IMO of course.

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#766 : April 24, 2013, 07:43:00 PM

Agreed. Like the PHFD mock. One of the few post-Revis mocks worth a damn.


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#767 : April 24, 2013, 07:49:09 PM



I'm not on the Steadman Bandwagon. He looks like a great college player but typically those small guys need to be faster to create some separation at the NFL level or else they are strictly slot receivers. I watched all his highlights and I tried to like him but I don't see him fitting into our offense, or being a full time NFL WR. If he ran a 4.36 instead of a 4.46 and could create separation that would be another story.

What do you think of Ryan Sw0pe? I like him as much as any WR this year.

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#768 : April 24, 2013, 07:56:23 PM

Ryan Griffin, probably the most untalked about guy in the average fan base. But he is someone to watch, it was him, not Geno Smith, Matt Barkley or EJ Manuel, that received the most private workouts with NFL teams.

Did you watch any of his film?

I think he is strictly a West Coast QB.

He was all dink and dunk and has that weird delivery. No thanks.

Has anyone else seen Colby Cameron? That's a solid looking QB IMO. Late round prospect I love. Probably my favorite QB in this whole draft.

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#769 : April 24, 2013, 08:12:32 PM

If i could be a bit wishful, this is mine based off what i have read in terms of where players are projected to go:

2: Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M (Stock is slipping, but was premier pass rusher at A&M)
3: Khaseem Green OLB Rutgers (Familiar with Schiano and the system)
4a: Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State (The size is right at 5-11, could learn from the best)
4b: Kwame Geathers DT Georgia (HUGE man at 350 to add depth to the NT on run downs, strictly space eater)
5: Ricky Wagner OT Wisconsin (Bostad coached him at WIS so familiar with scheme, could add depth to both tackle spots)
6a: Kayvon Webster CB South Florida (Local product, good size and speed combo to add competetion)
6b: Joseph Fauria TE UCLA (Big redzone target at 6-7 255 that had 12 touchdowns this past year)

With this draft we could acquire a player that was looked at as top 5 just 3 months ago (Moore) a potential solid starter (Green) a nickel corner that could push for the #2 spot in the next few years (Poyer) a good rotational run defending NT (Geathers) a valuable backup for both tackles (Wagner) a developmental corner (Webster) and a potential big redzone threat for Freeman (Fauria) that fills a lot of the needs i believe we have. Maybe sign an UDFA QB to be the #3 and try and push Dan for the #2 in a couple of years.

Would be pretty satisfied with this draft. We'd get guys who could contribute  a bit right away, and add solid depth. Not to mention become starters down the road.
I have to agree that is pretty close to my mock, i really hope either Ryan or Poyer drop to the 4th and moore and greene will be immediate contributors but im starting to think Dom is going to work his magic like last year and trade up into the first for a DE or CB

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#770 : April 24, 2013, 08:20:34 PM

Love Geathers. Ever since they started with the 3man fronts I have been asking where the hell is the two gapper?

Kwame will be a very effective 2gapper IMO. Strong anchor and short area quickness. And probably there in the 5th.

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#771 : April 24, 2013, 09:01:27 PM

round 2: DE damontre moore (texas A&M)
round 3: CB logan ryan (rutgers)
round 4: DT bennie logan (LSU)
round 4: DE michael buchanan (illinois)
round 5: CB steve williams (california)
round 6: OT ricky wagner (wisconsin)
round 6: RB zac stacy (vanderbilt)

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round 2: CB D.J. hayden (houston)
round 3: DE corey lemonier (auburn)
round 4: RB christine michael (texas A&M)
round 4: OT david quessenberry (san jose state)
round 5: DT jordan hill (penn state)
round 6: CB josh johnson (purdue)
round 6: DE mike catapano (princeton)
: April 24, 2013, 09:05:35 PM big_JLB


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#772 : April 24, 2013, 09:04:06 PM

I like it Derek. Whether or not the first three choices will be available is debatable.

When you see Moore on film he screams 1st rounder. If Greene was 2" taller he would be a 1st rounder too. IMO of course.

That is always the problem with mocking players. The first three were a bit hopeful i agree.
Your opinion is the same as mine as well.

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#773 : April 24, 2013, 09:25:03 PM



round 2: CB D.J. hayden (houston)
round 3: DE corey lemonier (auburn)
round 4: RB christine michael (texas A&M)
round 4: OT david quessenberry (san jose state)
round 5: DT jordan hill (penn state)
round 6: CB josh johnson (purdue)
round 6: DE mike catapano (princeton)

That would be a nice haul.

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#774 : April 24, 2013, 09:55:29 PM



I'm not on the Steadman Bandwagon. He looks like a great college player but typically those small guys need to be faster to create some separation at the NFL level or else they are strictly slot receivers. I watched all his highlights and I tried to like him but I don't see him fitting into our offense, or being a full time NFL WR. If he ran a 4.36 instead of a 4.46 and could create separation that would be another story.

What do you think of Ryan Sw0pe? I like him as much as any WR this year.

 I like the NFL comparisons for both these guys and think they are pretty close, Bailey = Steve Smith (Panthers)  Ryan Sw0pe a stronger = Brandon Stokley
: April 24, 2013, 09:57:06 PM XFactor


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#775 : April 24, 2013, 11:30:02 PM

I think Bailey does = Steve Smith, which is why I like him so much. He doesn't need a lot of separation because he has amazing body control and great hands. And even though he is a smaller receiver, he is built solid and plays strong. He's not just a slot, which adds value. This guy is a natural at hauling in the deep ball. He makes circus catches look easy and he will take a bad throw away from the defender.

In all honesty, I don't think he is a good fit for us, but only because of Freeman. Bailey is going to be deadly with a great QB, but I don't think Free has the timing or accuracy to make use of him. He'll probably end up on the Patriots and everyone in New England will forget all about Wes Welker.


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#776 : April 24, 2013, 11:31:17 PM



I'm not on the Steadman Bandwagon. He looks like a great college player but typically those small guys need to be faster to create some separation at the NFL level or else they are strictly slot receivers. I watched all his highlights and I tried to like him but I don't see him fitting into our offense, or being a full time NFL WR. If he ran a 4.36 instead of a 4.46 and could create separation that would be another story.


Wes Welker ran a 4.65. Danny Amendola ran a 4.58. Do they have trouble getting separation?

40 time means absolutely nothing when it comes to a slot receiver's effectiveness. Most the time they are being covered by the 3rd best corner, a safety, or even a linebacker. They need to run crisp routes, understand defenses, have great hands, great body control, and great change of direction. Running fast in a straight line for 40 yards doesn't tell you anything about a slot receiver.
: April 24, 2013, 11:35:33 PM JDouble


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#777 : April 24, 2013, 11:42:48 PM

Here's my combination wishful thinking-slash-no idea what I'm talking about final mock draft.

2nd - DE Tank Carradine
3rd - TE Travis Kelce
4th - CB Logan Ryan
4th - LB Khaseem Greene
5th - QB Landry Jones
6th - OT Chris Faulk
6th - WR Denard Robinson

There\'s a very real chance the Bucs waive [Revis] before next season. At the very least, it will be a discussion worth having.

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#778 : April 24, 2013, 11:47:16 PM

2) Kwaam Short DT- Good size and should start next to McCoy (I think we are wanting to create a quicker front)...Very good pass rusher
3) Sio Moore OLB- One of the best blitzing linebackers in the draft...physical freak who can rush standing up or hand in the dirt...can cover as well.
4) Travis Kelce TE-  I think he is the secondd best TE in this draft
4) Christine Michael RB- He drops because of injury and character history
5) Leon McFadden CB- nice young corner to develop
6) Landry Jones QB- Let's start bringing in some young QB talent
6) Jordan Milles OT- Our swing tackle

First 3 picks will start...the fourth will get lots of time spelling Martin...

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#779 : April 24, 2013, 11:53:24 PM

2: Datonte Jones DE UCLA
3: Robert Alford CB Southeastern Louisiana
4: Travis Kelce TE Cincinnati
4: Bennie Logan DT LSU
5: Brennan Williams  OT  UNC
6: Zac Stacy RB Vanderbilt
6: Conner Vernon WR Duke

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