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#645 : April 17, 2013, 05:58:01 PM

Five of eight guys at CBS.com have us taking Trufant at 13. I'm sure that should make some of you happy.


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#646 : April 17, 2013, 06:05:10 PM

Five of eight guys at CBS.com have us taking Trufant at 13. I'm sure that should make some of you happy.

Much happier than a stupid Nose Guard.

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#647 : April 17, 2013, 06:46:05 PM

I don't really love any of the players slotted around where we pick. 


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#648 : April 17, 2013, 07:41:11 PM

Five of eight guys at CBS.com have us taking Trufant at 13. I'm sure that should make some of you happy.

Certainly doesn't make me sad.


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#649 : April 17, 2013, 07:51:39 PM

I would not be devastated by Trufant. But the way Milliner locates the ball so early really attracts.  The ball leads him to the receiver, and because of the focus on the ball there can be no penalties.  You have to be fast to pull this off, and Milliner does have the speed, but it seems like he has a well ingrained habit of locating the ball early. 

After Milliner there are many CB's are are about equal.  I like Hayden and Taylor. So if we miss on Milliner, I would rather go Dt in the 1st and a CB in the 2nd.

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#650 : April 17, 2013, 08:02:03 PM

Round 1 -
Tavon Austin WR WVU -
We need a slot WR and this guy fits the bill perfectly. Probably the most electrifying player in the draft that can take it to the house every play. He also fills our PR, KR positions.

Round 2 -
Darius Slay CB Miss St -
The better of the 2 Miss St CBs. Showed good man coverage skills and is quick.

Round 3 -
Jordan Reed TE Florida
A development TE, who brings a lot of athletic ability to the position.

Round 4 -
Sanders Cumming CB Georgia
More depth at CB that we so need badly. Could be a real steal down the road

Round 4 -
Matt Scott Qb Arizona
Like this kid a lot and he could be a great guy to develop for this year and if Freeman falters he can take over the reins. If not we have good trade bait and a back up QB

Round 5 -
John Simon, DE OSU
Depth depth depth.

Round 6 -
Blaize Foltz, G, TCU
Solid back up  and again adds more depth

Round 7 -
Brandon Moore, DT, Texas
Could develop into a starter down the road. Worth a flyer at this point.


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#651 : April 17, 2013, 10:21:53 PM

I thought I was done, but with one week to go I have to make a major change. We still trade back in the first and give up our extra 4th to gain another pick in the 2nd round.


1st - DE Tank Carradine - Taking a guy coming on injury is always scary, but we've made a habit of it. If Tank is 100% of who he was before the injury, he might just be the best 4-3 DE in the entire draft.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4k00dbebjs

2nd - CB DJ Hayden - I think Hayden is the best CB in this draft. We get a steal in the 2nd round. We have to give up our 5th round pick to move up a bit to get him, but it is well worth it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llLcuVvBZ1M

2nd - WR Stedman Bailey - I think he is severely underrated and might end up being the best receiver in the draft. 37 receiving TDs over the past two seasons, 25 just last year...is no joke. He isn't the tallest or biggest or strongest, but he is a playmaker. Folks might be upset with this pick at first, but they will quickly come to love Bailey.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mmrhPn5F3g

3rd - TE Gavin Escobar - We'll see if he makes it to the third. Most sites have him projected as a 3rd, but I find that hard to believe.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljO2OScTeRI

3rd - CB Leon McFadden - We use one of our extra 6th round picks along with our remaining 4th to move up into the late 3rd round to grab McFadden. Personally I think this guy is a 2nd round talent, so I don't know if he'll make it this far.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3nKER5Lls

6th - RB Dennis Johnson - Great value late in the draft. A true #2 that can spell Martin and even step up and start if Martin was hurt. On top of being a very good runner, he catches very well, he is good in pass protection, and he is an outstanding returner.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pijo3OaOYaY


I'd have liked to get a DT, but unfortunately it just didn't fit. Could possibly take Sylvester Williams in the 1st instead of Carradine, but I think that would be need rather than BPA. I would love this draft and I think even with starting several rookies, we'd be a much improved team.



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#652 : April 18, 2013, 07:35:49 AM

Why are you surprised Escobar is going to be a 3rd ? He's slow. He ran a 5.0 . I like him also but there are some legit concerns about his ability to create seperation at the next level. 3rd is most likely where he slots.

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#653 : April 18, 2013, 09:00:46 AM

I thought I was done, but with one week to go I have to make a major change. We still trade back in the first and give up our extra 4th to gain another pick in the 2nd round.


1st - DE Tank Carradine - Taking a guy coming on injury is always scary, but we've made a habit of it. If Tank is 100% of who he was before the injury, he might just be the best 4-3 DE in the entire draft.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4k00dbebjs

2nd - CB DJ Hayden - I think Hayden is the best CB in this draft. We get a steal in the 2nd round. We have to give up our 5th round pick to move up a bit to get him, but it is well worth it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llLcuVvBZ1M

2nd - WR Stedman Bailey - I think he is severely underrated and might end up being the best receiver in the draft. 37 receiving TDs over the past two seasons, 25 just last year...is no joke. He isn't the tallest or biggest or strongest, but he is a playmaker. Folks might be upset with this pick at first, but they will quickly come to love Bailey.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mmrhPn5F3g

3rd - TE Gavin Escobar - We'll see if he makes it to the third. Most sites have him projected as a 3rd, but I find that hard to believe.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljO2OScTeRI

3rd - CB Leon McFadden - We use one of our extra 6th round picks along with our remaining 4th to move up into the late 3rd round to grab McFadden. Personally I think this guy is a 2nd round talent, so I don't know if he'll make it this far.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3nKER5Lls

6th - RB Dennis Johnson - Great value late in the draft. A true #2 that can spell Martin and even step up and start if Martin was hurt. On top of being a very good runner, he catches very well, he is good in pass protection, and he is an outstanding returner.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pijo3OaOYaY


I'd have liked to get a DT, but unfortunately it just didn't fit. Could possibly take Sylvester Williams in the 1st instead of Carradine, but I think that would be need rather than BPA. I would love this draft and I think even with starting several rookies, we'd be a much improved team.

A lot of risky picks. I'd be worried with the first two picks and their injury past. I like Bailey (in the 4th)  but the second round is a reach. I'd be one of those people upset lol. 


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#654 : April 18, 2013, 10:44:30 AM

Why are you surprised Escobar is going to be a 3rd ? He's slow. He ran a 5.0 . I like him also but there are some legit concerns about his ability to create seperation at the next level. 3rd is most likely where he slots.
the third best TE in draft won't be there in 3rd. Him, Kelce and even Vance could all go in 2nd.

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#655 : April 18, 2013, 11:14:04 AM

with that trade -

1 - sly williams - jdoub mentioned as a need pick, but i think he has much more value than carradine.
2 - jamar taylor - ill be honest, ive never watched the guy play but i like what ive read.
2 - johnthan banks - team loves him, his numbers give us great value.
3 - travis kelce - much better blocker than escobar, better athlete (i think), and good chance his hands are just as good.
3 - here's where i pick up sheard and rubin.  if not, i still gotta take a barrett jones-ish guy.  versatile OL.
6 - dennis johnson - why not?  from what jdoub writes hed be a great pickup.

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#656 : April 18, 2013, 12:06:27 PM

2nd - CB DJ Hayden - I think Hayden is the best CB in this draft. We get a steal in the 2nd round. We have to give up our 5th round pick to move up a bit to get him, but it is well worth it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llLcuVvBZ1M

A lot of risky picks. I'd be worried with the first two picks and their injury past. I like Bailey (in the 4th)  but the second round is a reach. I'd be one of those people upset lol.

Is Hayden's injury something that could lead to future complications or just a freak thing? I haven't really followed his story beyond the Houston staff saving his life.

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#657 : April 18, 2013, 01:25:47 PM

2nd - CB DJ Hayden - I think Hayden is the best CB in this draft. We get a steal in the 2nd round. We have to give up our 5th round pick to move up a bit to get him, but it is well worth it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llLcuVvBZ1M

A lot of risky picks. I'd be worried with the first two picks and their injury past. I like Bailey (in the 4th)  but the second round is a reach. I'd be one of those people upset lol.

Is Hayden's injury something that could lead to future complications or just a freak thing? I haven't really followed his story beyond the Houston staff saving his life.

That was the definition of freak injury. ive literally never heard of anyone having that happen before. it does give some cause for concern being it was that serious but i dont think its something chronic or anything like that

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#658 : April 18, 2013, 01:29:28 PM

Is there any reason to think that it makes him more likely to something similar happening in the future?

There\'s a very real chance the Bucs waive [Revis] before next season. At the very least, it will be a discussion worth having.

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#659 : April 18, 2013, 01:48:46 PM

Is there any reason to think that it makes him more likely to something similar happening in the future?

im not a doctor but i doubt it. that seemed like a contact injury similar to what youd get in a car wreck, he had to have gotten hit just right for it to happen. im sure hes going to wear a little more padding around his chest area but he should be fine. like i said that was a 1 in a million injury
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