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Quote from: chace1986 on January 17, 2013, 02:35:57 AMQuote from: The Anti-Java on January 17, 2013, 02:18:04 AMQuote from: chace1986 on January 17, 2013, 02:10:44 AMA lot of things will change between now and April. What is considered a reach now, may not be considered a reach then. Since Kiper is quoted here, when looking at his 1.0 last year...there were 11 players that were first round picks that were not even on Kiper's initial list. Of the ones on the list, Dennard was a 7th rounder and Burfict went undrafted. Poe, Cox, and Brockers were projected in the mid-late 20's and all 3 went between 11-14. Kuechly, Barron, and Floyd were all drafted at least 6 spots higher than originally projected.I hear ya man, I view Kiper as entertainment value. But IMO, I don't view Rhodes as good value at #13. Don't get me wrong, I like him, but I think Dom could trade back a bit and score him later. Then pick up a couple picks for the trade back.Oh yea. He is definitely there for entertainment, and the draft has turned into a huge event. Hell, more people watch the 1st round of the draft than watch the World Series and NBA Finals combined(average ratings of entire series). People who watch the NFL eat, drink, and sleep it. Right now, fans of 28 teams are tuned into their teams potential moves, just as much as they are to the remaining games. Most of ESPN insider subscriptions are sold to those wanting to see the Scouts Inc./Kiper/McShay info as well as various NFL rumors and draft coverage. I also believe that if NFL GMs wrote down a mock draft in January and also updated it 3-4 times before April, that it probably wouldn't be much more accurate than Kiper's. Kiper is definitely not 100%, but neither are NFL GMs/draft teams.A friend of mine is from Seattle and a big Seahawks fan. After that heartbreaker Sunday, he said he is done with football until next training camp. But not me, I still love the playoffs and the draft and free agency period. Can't get enough. We have had some really good games this year too, in the playoffs. Hopefully the Super Bowl is not a snoozefest.
Quote from: The Anti-Java on January 17, 2013, 02:18:04 AMQuote from: chace1986 on January 17, 2013, 02:10:44 AMA lot of things will change between now and April. What is considered a reach now, may not be considered a reach then. Since Kiper is quoted here, when looking at his 1.0 last year...there were 11 players that were first round picks that were not even on Kiper's initial list. Of the ones on the list, Dennard was a 7th rounder and Burfict went undrafted. Poe, Cox, and Brockers were projected in the mid-late 20's and all 3 went between 11-14. Kuechly, Barron, and Floyd were all drafted at least 6 spots higher than originally projected.I hear ya man, I view Kiper as entertainment value. But IMO, I don't view Rhodes as good value at #13. Don't get me wrong, I like him, but I think Dom could trade back a bit and score him later. Then pick up a couple picks for the trade back.Oh yea. He is definitely there for entertainment, and the draft has turned into a huge event. Hell, more people watch the 1st round of the draft than watch the World Series and NBA Finals combined(average ratings of entire series). People who watch the NFL eat, drink, and sleep it. Right now, fans of 28 teams are tuned into their teams potential moves, just as much as they are to the remaining games. Most of ESPN insider subscriptions are sold to those wanting to see the Scouts Inc./Kiper/McShay info as well as various NFL rumors and draft coverage. I also believe that if NFL GMs wrote down a mock draft in January and also updated it 3-4 times before April, that it probably wouldn't be much more accurate than Kiper's. Kiper is definitely not 100%, but neither are NFL GMs/draft teams.
Quote from: chace1986 on January 17, 2013, 02:10:44 AMA lot of things will change between now and April. What is considered a reach now, may not be considered a reach then. Since Kiper is quoted here, when looking at his 1.0 last year...there were 11 players that were first round picks that were not even on Kiper's initial list. Of the ones on the list, Dennard was a 7th rounder and Burfict went undrafted. Poe, Cox, and Brockers were projected in the mid-late 20's and all 3 went between 11-14. Kuechly, Barron, and Floyd were all drafted at least 6 spots higher than originally projected.I hear ya man, I view Kiper as entertainment value. But IMO, I don't view Rhodes as good value at #13. Don't get me wrong, I like him, but I think Dom could trade back a bit and score him later. Then pick up a couple picks for the trade back.
A lot of things will change between now and April. What is considered a reach now, may not be considered a reach then. Since Kiper is quoted here, when looking at his 1.0 last year...there were 11 players that were first round picks that were not even on Kiper's initial list. Of the ones on the list, Dennard was a 7th rounder and Burfict went undrafted. Poe, Cox, and Brockers were projected in the mid-late 20's and all 3 went between 11-14. Kuechly, Barron, and Floyd were all drafted at least 6 spots higher than originally projected.
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.
I don't get the Schaub love. They remind me of the old time Bucs, great defense and game manager type QB. Maybe they make a play for Alex Smith or Flynn or someone.
Quote from: The Anti-Java on January 17, 2013, 03:25:19 AMI don't get the Schaub love. They remind me of the old time Bucs, great defense and game manager type QB. Maybe they make a play for Alex Smith or Flynn or someone.Possibly. There will probably be 7-8 QBs taken in the first 2 rounds...they could grab one of those guys.Also, their defense while good, was definitely not as good as that '11 squad.
although there isn't many top shutdown corners in the draft it is very deep, besides Milliner, I am high on Rhodes, Banks i'm not sold on yet, need to see the senior bowl practices and combine, both other than those three I am very high on Logan Ryan, very physical and is always around the ball. Jordan Poyer is another I am high on, a sleeper that keeps rising is WIll Davis from Ut St, they been saying he has been rising up to almost the second round lately
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