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The thought of women dodging bullets and bombs in combat may have seemed jarringly out of place in earlier eras of Doughboys and G.I. Joes and the wars of the previous century.

But for anyone familiar with today's troops and the missions they face - or who has paused to read the names of this nation's combat casualties - the historic move by the Pentagon to open up front-line roles to women is hardly a shock.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, along with Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, plans to announce today that the U.S. military is lifting its ban on women serving in combat, senior Pentagon officials said Wednesday. The move would open hundreds of thousands of military positions to women, said one official who spoke anonymously because Panetta had not yet made the announcement.

Women are serving and have been serving in uniform alongside their male counterparts in Afghanistan and did so in Iraq for much of the past decade, even as their theoretical fitness to serve was debated back home. Although officially in support roles, the distinction ultimately made little difference to the 152 female U.S. troops who have died while deployed in those two wars.

"We've always had women in combat zones," says Pat Murphy, a retired Air Force colonel who served in Vietnam and is president of the Air Force Women Officers Associated.

In recent years, the necessities of war - and an all-volunteer military - have propelled women into jobs as medics, military police, intelligence officers and other roles, often attached to units on the front lines. Many female troops carry guns on patrols in Afghanistan, often to deal with and search local women and families encountered by U.S. forces.

Women make up 14% of the 1.4 million active military personnel. Whether they fire a weapon or not, they've been targets of the enemy, just like their male colleagues.

And now on to the next controversy...should girls have to register for the draft when they turn 18 like boys do?

There's a draft?


--- Quote from: olafberserker on January 24, 2013, 07:43:38 AM ---There's a draft?

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Only issue is the same I have with female firefighters and cops...they should have to meet the same physical requirements. I don't care who pulls me out of a fire or shoots a terrorist, I just want the best person to be in a position to do it.


--- Quote from: Morgan on January 24, 2013, 08:56:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: cyberdude558 on January 24, 2013, 01:42:44 AM ---

And now on to the next controversy...should girls have to register for the draft when they turn 18 like boys do?

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We've had women in combat for awhile now. Military Police, aviation, and chemical and other units have had women in the ranks- but having them in infantry, field artillery, and the combat arms will be very different.  Our military already has a major problem with sexual assault. Now introducing women into predominantly male units won't make things any better.

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I was in Pattaya, Thailand and some American soldiers were there on break from an assignment in Iraq.   They looked to all be around 20 years old.   There were 4 guys and 2 girls.   The 2 girls were 2 of the ugliest beasts I've ever seen.   The 2 girls took all of their clothes off naked and the guys were doing tequila shots off their breasts.    The bar had tons of hot Thai girls naked and the last thing I wanted to see were those 2 fat American military cows naked.    I complained to the management to have those girls put their clothes back on.    They let them stay naked, so I left.    You are right Morgan, our military is obviously desperate.   If we actually had good looking women in there, i can only imagine the problems there would be with sexual assault.


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