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#60 : January 29, 2013, 09:49:51 PM

Yes, it was a purchase to fill a huge need.  Unfortunately someone lost the modifier 'solid' in the description of the cornerback need

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#61 : January 29, 2013, 09:56:27 PM

I'll take 2 out of 3.  Clark was a nice addition

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#62 : January 29, 2013, 10:05:14 PM

I'll take 2 out of 3.  Clark was a nice addition
Yes he has been, hope they get him back again. And when going after big time talent - 2 of 3 is surely better than 0 for 0.

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#63 : January 29, 2013, 11:44:39 PM

Anyone who thinks that the ManU purchase in 2005 and the Bucs being at THE BOTTOM in overall spending 2005-2011 are not related....

...has brains made up of peanut butter.

The Glazers have billions from their real estate alone.....but they didn't spend in free agency because ManU made them sooo broke they couldn't afford an extra $20M? They couldn't afford to spend like .06% of their fortune? Sure. That makes perfect sense.

In all fairness the agrument you are quoting is perfectly reasonable.  There is a huge difference between someone's worth and their liquidity.  The Glazers have been leveraged up to their eyeballs  inorder to acquire ManU.  The Glazers are superb business men.  They were correct in the acquisition of ManU and its appreciation in value.  But like a couple buying a new home, it makes sense that they would cut back in other areas of spending. Especially considering the impact the recent recession and real estate crash had on their holdings.   You can debate whether the Glazers stopped spending as a result of the ManU purchase, but you can't say that it is absurd to draw a connection to it.  The fact remains that spending on the Buccaneers salary has been suppressed for some time.  Bad drafts can be considered part of the that, but it is reasonable to feel the Glazers have not chased excellence with the same fervor they once did. 

I ,for one, think they made a business decision to reduce spending on the Buccaneers and allow the profit juggernaut that is an NFL franchise to generate wealth on an auto pilot basis.  They are now reinvesting n the franchise - again a business decision to maintain the fan base now that things have improved financially.  That is their right as a business owner, bt it is also the right of the consumer to make a decision not to contnue  one sided commercial relationship.

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#64 : January 30, 2013, 12:50:07 AM

Nobody knows for sure why the Glazers decided to stop spending on the Bucs around the same time they made their move to takeover Man U or why they decided to jump in and make a splash in FA about the same time they took some shares public and pulled in $100 M cash, but one could wonder.

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#65 : January 30, 2013, 12:52:46 AM

The interplay between Glazer bashing and Gru/Allen apologists is interesting, isnt it? Gru/Allen apologists seem to be the most outspoken Glazer bashers. Is that because it simply couldn't be that Gru/Allen emptied the cupboard of talent? 

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#66 : January 30, 2013, 08:09:30 AM

If you read my post concerning our premium draft picks prior to Gruden coming aboard, you'd know the "emptying" was inevitable regardless of who our coach was. It's incredible how someone can be wrong so often and still be oblivious to it.

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#67 : January 30, 2013, 08:38:49 AM

If you read my post concerning our premium draft picks prior to Gruden coming aboard, you'd know the "emptying" was inevitable regardless of who our coach was. It's incredible how someone can be wrong so often and still be oblivious to it.
So what does that have to do with the owners being cheap?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#68 : January 30, 2013, 09:04:03 AM

The Glazers spent plenty of money for Gruden's first four years. Then, due to cutting our old stars, giving up two 1st round picks for Gruden, and horrible drafting....by 2006 there was nobody on the roster worth paying. No franchise QB, no elite pass rushers, no shut down corners. That is why our payroll was so low. That is reality...but keep on with the conspiracy theories about ManU. It's fun.


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#69 : January 30, 2013, 11:30:09 AM

The interplay between Glazer bashing and Gru/Allen apologists is interesting, isnt it? Gru/Allen apologists seem to be the most outspoken Glazer bashers. Is that because it simply couldn't be that Gru/Allen emptied the cupboard of talent?

Interesting that you are trying to steer this thread away from you original erroneous premise.

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#70 : January 30, 2013, 02:12:01 PM

If you read my post concerning our premium draft picks prior to Gruden coming aboard, you'd know the "emptying" was inevitable regardless of who our coach was. It's incredible how someone can be wrong so often and still be oblivious to it.
So what does that have to do with the owners being cheap?

My response to the **CENSORED** has nothing to do with what you're asking. Do you want to know what my favorite food is? That's about as relevant as your question.
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