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cflabucsfan:
Saw this in ESPN.com. Too lenghty to paste whole article.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8884695/super-bowl-xlvii-doug-williams-embraces-history

Boid Fink:
He broke a barrier. He did work.

He seems like a man who demands attention, if not respect. Just bitter.

dexmonkey:
doug williams is massively underappreciated by the fanbase. the guy was a good player thrust into a terrible position. the racism he faced was really bad. i didnt know much til i read the book Mckays Men. detailed the history of the bucs and the 1979 season. really lets you see how the early years of the franchise went down. i dont blame williams for being bitter toward the fanbase and team

1sparkybuc:
Doug Williams couldn't score a single TD against the Rams in the NFCC game. He still has the worst completion percentage of any QB in Buccaneer history. The defense and Ricky Bell carried him. He stunk on ice. On the way out the door he stated he hoped the Bucs never won another game. I watched him throw a ball out of bounds on 4th down to stop the clock. No touch, little accuracy, just velocity. And people complain about Freeman.

On a positive note, he refused to accept payment on a guaranteed contract when the USFL folded.

JavaRay:

--- Quote from: 1sparkybuc on January 29, 2013, 03:07:29 PM ---I watched him throw a ball out of bounds on 4th down to stop the clock.

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He was no genius.   But he was a leader and the Bucs obviously respected him at the time.   He was literally the heart and soul of the Bucs back then - and he was a winner.    If Josh Freeman had the heart Doug Williams had on the field, he'd be the best QB of all time.   Instead Freeman is a human jellyfish with no guts.

DeltaBuc5:

--- Quote from: dexmonkey on January 29, 2013, 01:15:13 PM ---doug williams is massively underappreciated by the fanbase. the guy was a good player thrust into a terrible position. the racism he faced was really bad. i didnt know much til i read the book Mckays Men. detailed the history of the bucs and the 1979 season. really lets you see how the early years of the franchise went down. i dont blame williams for being bitter toward the fanbase and team

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30 years, completely different franchise, still can't get himself to drop a simple grudge.. His achievements don't change the fact that he's a **CENSORED**.

dexmonkey:

--- Quote from: BFT+C on January 29, 2013, 09:21:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: dexmonkey on January 29, 2013, 01:15:13 PM ---doug williams is massively underappreciated by the fanbase. the guy was a good player thrust into a terrible position. the racism he faced was really bad. i didnt know much til i read the book Mckays Men. detailed the history of the bucs and the 1979 season. really lets you see how the early years of the franchise went down. i dont blame williams for being bitter toward the fanbase and team

--- End quote ---
30 years, completely different franchise, still can't get himself to drop a simple grudge.. His achievements don't change the fact that he's a **CENSORED**.

--- End quote ---

youd be pretty pissed too if you got **CENSORED** on like he did. some things dont heal. ask bo jackson how he feels about the tampa bay franchise, bet you wont get a nice answer either

DeltaBuc5:

--- Quote from: dexmonkey on January 29, 2013, 09:26:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: BFT+C on January 29, 2013, 09:21:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: dexmonkey on January 29, 2013, 01:15:13 PM ---doug williams is massively underappreciated by the fanbase. the guy was a good player thrust into a terrible position. the racism he faced was really bad. i didnt know much til i read the book Mckays Men. detailed the history of the bucs and the 1979 season. really lets you see how the early years of the franchise went down. i dont blame williams for being bitter toward the fanbase and team

--- End quote ---
30 years, completely different franchise, still can't get himself to drop a simple grudge.. His achievements don't change the fact that he's a **CENSORED**.

--- End quote ---

youd be pretty pissed too if you got **CENSORED** on like he did. some things dont heal. ask bo jackson how he feels about the tampa bay franchise, bet you wont get a nice answer either

--- End quote ---
Again.

That was 30 years ago. If someone has an ego that big, that will let them hold a grudge for that long, against people that don't deserve it...they have psychological problems and should see a specialist.

1sparkybuc:

--- Quote from: JavaRay on January 29, 2013, 06:30:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: 1sparkybuc on January 29, 2013, 03:07:29 PM ---I watched him throw a ball out of bounds on 4th down to stop the clock.

--- End quote ---

He was no genius.   But he was a leader and the Bucs obviously respected him at the time.   He was literally the heart and soul of the Bucs back then - and he was a winner.    If Josh Freeman had the heart Doug Williams had on the field, he'd be the best QB of all time.   Instead Freeman is a human jellyfish with no guts.

--- End quote ---

You really have a thing for QBs who can't complete half their passes. Freeman's worst year (rookie) was ten percentage points superior to Doug"s. In fact it's equal to Doug's career average with the Bucs. If Freeman had the Defense Doug had. The Bucs would be playing this Sunday in the SB. If the 2012 Bucs had Doug Williams at QB, we'd be alternating picks with KC. The heart and soul of the Bucs back then was LeeRoy. Doug Williams was the clown prince.

JavaRay:

--- Quote from: 1sparkybuc on January 29, 2013, 10:38:20 PM ---If the 2012 Bucs had Doug Williams at QB

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If the 2012 Bucs had Williams at QB, they would have been in the playoffs.

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