Does Josh Freeman have a chance to be Elite ?

[michael89156]

Elite Quarterbacks in the NFL



By NFL.com Staff


Published: January 28th, 2013




 
Who are the elite quarterbacks in the NFL? It’s the debate that never stops. Every year fans and pundits alike try to add in a new name, or keep one out. While there is no clear definition of what makes a quarterback “elite,” the research gurus here at NFL.com compiled statistics for every current starting quarterback in the NFL to see who rose to the top in several marquee categories.
 
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Statistics – Did they lead the league this year?
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The Elite:
 




The Breakdown:
 
Starting QBs that are in the top 20 Passer Rating:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Cam Newton, Jay Cutler, Andy Dalton, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, Robert Griffin III
 
And also the top 14 most passing yards:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman
 
And also the top 10 fewest interceptions:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, Sam Bradford
 
And also the top five most touchdown passes:
 
Matt Ryan, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Eli Manning
 


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Playoff Success – Have they won in the playoffs?
 
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The Elite:
 




The Breakdown:
 
Starting QBs that have made the playoffs:
 
Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, Michael Vick, Philip Rivers, Colin Kaepernick, Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Matt Schaub, Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford, Andy Dalton, Andrew Luck, Matt Cassel, Christian Ponder, Carson Palmer, Robert Griffin III
 
Won a playoff game:
 
Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, Michael Vick, Philip Rivers, Colin Kaepernick, Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Matt Schaub, Russell Wilson
 
Won two or more playoff games:
 
Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, Michael Vick, Philip Rivers, Colin Kaepernick
 
Won a Super Bowl:
 
Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger
 
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Fourth Quarter – Do they dominate the end of games?
 
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The Elite:
 




The Breakdown:
 
Starting QBs with at least eight fourth quarter comebacks:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Matthew Stafford, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Michael Vick, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Josh Freeman
 
And at least 15 game-winning drives:
 
Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers
 
And a career fourth quarter passer rating above 86.0:
 
Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers
 
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Winning Streaks – Can they string together multiple wins?
 
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The Elite:
 




The Breakdown:
 
Starting QBs with a four game win streak:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, Jay Cutler, Andy Dalton, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Matthew Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Andrew Luck, Matt Cassel, Christian Ponder, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Michael Vick, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Josh Freeman, Robert Griffin III
 
With a six game win streak:
 
Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Robert Griffin III
 
With an eight game win streak:
 
Matt Ryan, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers
 
With two separate eight game or more winning streaks:
 
Matt Ryan, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers
 
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Consistency – Are they performing year after year?
 
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The Elite:
 




The Breakdown:
 
Starting QBs that have played for five or more years in the NFL:
 
Kevin Kolb, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Matt Cassel, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, Michael Vick, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers
 
And have had at least 3,000 yards passing in four of five seasons:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers
 
And have had a completion percentage above 60 percent in four of five seasons:
 
Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers
 
And have had at least 25 passing touchdowns in four of five seasons:
 
Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers
 
And have had at least 10 wins in four of five seasons:
 
Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady
 
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Clutch – Are they at their best when it counts the most?
 
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The Elite:
 




The Breakdown:
 
Starting QBs that have a third down passer rating of 84.0 or more:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Robert Griffin III
 
And have a touchdown-interception ratio of 2:1 in December and January:
 
Joe Flacco, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Robert Griffin III
 
And at least five playoff wins:
 
Joe Flacco, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees
 
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Big Play Threat – Can they take over a game with one play?
 
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The Elite:
 




The Breakdown:
 
Starting QBs that average at least seven yards per pass attempt:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, Michael Vick, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Jake Locker, Robert Griffin III
 
And also have at least one season with 40 completions of 25 or more yards:
 
Joe Flacco, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers
 
And also at least 15 completions on passes thrown 41 or more yards downfield:
 
Joe Flacco, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers
 
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Road Warrior – Can they win away from home consistently?
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The Elite:
 




The Breakdown:
 
Starting QBs with a road winning percentage over .500:
 
Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Michael Vick, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Robert Griffin III
 
And a passer rating over 90.0 on the road:
 
Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Robert Griffin III
 
And a touchdown-interception ratio of 2:1 on the road:
 
Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Robert Griffin III

[DeltaBuc5]

[chace1986]

Sure there is "a chance"...a very very very very very very low chance....but "a chance" all the same.

[The Anti-Java]

Well... if he is going to take the next step, he better get going on it.  Big, big, season coming up for him.  If he doesn't show growth next season, it might be time to start thinking about plan B.

[BucBalla85]

Of course he can. He's gonna play isn't he? If he plays like he's capable of and does it consistently, I have no problem with getting that from him as our QB. His best play is pretty damn good. I dont see why he cant work to be that more consistently. Build the defense up and you got yourself a pretty damn good team.

[The Anti-Java]

Of course he can. He's gonna play isn't he? If he plays like he's capable of and does it consistently, I have no problem with getting that from him as our QB. His best play is pretty damn good. I dont see why he cant work to be that more consistently. Build the defense up and you got yourself a pretty damn good team.

consistently



That is the big thing right there.  I am his biggest fan, but man, its time to show some consistency.  You see guys like Russell Wilson, Luck, and RG III come in to the league, and they are ballin right out of the gate.

[JavaRay]

[DonkeyHunter]

He's got next season to show us. If not, well, then it's back to the drawing board.

[tatmanfish]

Of course he can. He's gonna play isn't he? If he plays like he's capable of and does it consistently, I have no problem with getting that from him as our QB. His best play is pretty damn good. I dont see why he cant work to be that more consistently. Build the defense up and you got yourself a pretty damn good team.

consistently



That is the big thing right there. I am his biggest fan, but man, its time to show some consistency.  You see guys like Russell Wilson, Luck, and RG III come in to the league, and they are ballin right out of the gate.

lol, link? Your posts suggest youre not his biggest fan.

[BucNY]

Of course he can. He's gonna play isn't he? If he plays like he's capable of and does it consistently, I have no problem with getting that from him as our QB. His best play is pretty damn good. I dont see why he cant work to be that more consistently. Build the defense up and you got yourself a pretty damn good team.

consistently



That is the big thing right there.  I am his biggest fan, but man, its time to show some consistency.  You see guys like Russell Wilson, Luck, and RG III come in to the league, and they are ballin right out of the gate.

He has the skills to be elite, needs the consistency.

I hear you with Luck, Wilson and RGIII but you have to be able to understand that RGIII and Wilson are running offenses that are college type offenses and that aren't "figured" out by the NFL yet. Same with Kapernick. I"ll jump on the Wilson and RGIII band wagon at the end of next year when they have a similar season.

Luck is a player, no doubt about it. He is in a traditional offense and putting up big numbers, also big interceptions. Everyone's path is different. I do believe we'll see a Cam Newton effect with RGIII and to a lesser extent Wilson.

[BucBalla85]

Of course he can. He's gonna play isn't he? If he plays like he's capable of and does it consistently, I have no problem with getting that from him as our QB. His best play is pretty damn good. I dont see why he cant work to be that more consistently. Build the defense up and you got yourself a pretty damn good team.

consistently



That is the big thing right there.  I am his biggest fan, but man, its time to show some consistency.  You see guys like Russell Wilson, Luck, and RG III come in to the league, and they are ballin right out of the gate.

He has the skills to be elite, needs the consistency.

I hear you with Luck, Wilson and RGIII but you have to be able to understand that RGIII and Wilson are running offenses that are college type offenses and that aren't "figured" out by the NFL yet. Same with Kapernick. I"ll jump on the Wilson and RGIII band wagon at the end of next year when they have a similar season.

Luck is a player, no doubt about it. He is in a traditional offense and putting up big numbers, also big interceptions. Everyone's path is different. I do believe we'll see a Cam Newton effect with RGIII and to a lesser extent Wilson.

I agree BucNY. and not only that but hes playing on a team that is simply not as good as those teams. Wilson and Kap played on a team with excellent defense. Freeman played on a team that has **CENSORED**ty defense. What would happen if we switched defenses with SF or SEA?? My guess is we would be a better team than them. Our defense right now really sucks. I know Freeman has to improve his game and be more consistent and all but the defense really needs to improve as well or they are going nowhere as a team. I dont care who you got at QB. You could have Brady as our QB and we would probably make playoffs but we wouldnt be that much better overall. Bradys teams have lost because their defenses havent been good enough. Its a team game, if everybody is playing well, the team wins. Simple as that.   

[Ms Elam]

This artical makes no sense......freemans already elite . Smh

[Dolorous Jason]

Freeman's a baller.

[caradoc]

Of course he can. He's gonna play isn't he? If he plays like he's capable of and does it consistently, I have no problem with getting that from him as our QB. His best play is pretty damn good. I dont see why he cant work to be that more consistently. Build the defense up and you got yourself a pretty damn good team.

consistently



That is the big thing right there.  I am his biggest fan, but man, its time to show some consistency.  You see guys like Russell Wilson, Luck, and RG III come in to the league, and they are ballin right out of the gate.

He has the skills to be elite

What skills? 

Accuracy?  Nope.
Touch?  Nope.
Intelligent field general?  Nope.
Fiery leader?  Nope.
Calm under pressure?  Nope.
Smart decision maker?  Nope.

Josh makes a living chucking deep jumpers.  Other than that he's got nothing to scare anyone with. 

[lyronmewis]

Freeman seems like the kind of guy who could end up a backup for a few years, and come out randomly with an elite season, then go back to sucking the rest of his career.