Oh those funny gun lovers . . .

[GameTime]

just trying to have an honest conversation

i have a hard time believing this.  this thread isnt 27 pages because of honest conversation imo.  and unfortunately, you have built a persona where honest converstation is not possible on these boards.

[Dolorous Jason]

Lol , Still no answer. Once again,  im done with you peanut butter boy.

[VinBucFan]

just trying to have an honest conversation

i have a hard time believing this.  this thread isnt 27 pages because of honest conversation imo.  and unfortunately, you have built a persona where honest converstation is not possible on these boards.

lol, fair enough. 

Go on any of these gun threads, I think there are four of them, and find one post by a pro-gun person either a) acknowledging that there may be too many guns or b) offering even a single "solution" as in my post #395.  You may be able to find a couple posts in category (a), maybe. I don't think you will find any in category (b), which is particularly interesting if you look at my early posts with Spartan in the Connecticut thread, which actually asked for ideas tow maintain fidelity to the 2nd Am while also reducing gun violence.

Believe me, these threads are no place to have an honest conversation. My comment was intended as sarcasm.  Does my  "persona" play a role in that? Absolutely, I take the time to push back, so that does not help, but just as much of the problem is anonymity (I am a regular attendee at most G2Gs so I am not an anonymous poster) and the lunacy and immaturity of some posters.  In these threads, my "persona" has three or four "goons" chasing it around. Used to be five goons, but one was "muted" recently.  Wonder if that has anything to do with his posting a poll calling for people to shoot me in the face? lol. 

[VinBucFan]

Lol , Still no answer. Once again,  im done with you peanut butter boy.

Basic logic: guns create a risk of death and injury. MORE guns create MORE of a risk of death and injury. LESS guns create LESS of a risk of death and injury.  It's really not that complicated and yet this is still posted:

310 million guns down to 155 million isn't going to do sh!t

The ironic part is that someone who actually typed that ^^^^^^^^^

also typed this:

I'm sick of going round in circles with an idiot. 

[Biggs3535]

Believe me, these threads are no place to have an honest conversation. My comment was intended as sarcasm.

lolz, I think PBCBoy actually expects people to believe this.

[olafberserker]

On page 2 of this thread:    http://www.pewterreport.com/Boards/index.php/topic,1301767.225.html   vincent p b attacked his first poster by calling him a "wreck" of a human being.   This page here (16) has several personal attacks from vincent p b on multiple posters including calling my post "stupid" because I made an innocent comment that there are many ways for people to kill people and that banning guns was not going to stop lunatics.   There are dozens of attacks by vincent p b in that thread alone.

The it's not me it's them crap is old.

[VinBucFan]

Seems the vinegar beats the honey :-)

[VinBucFan]

Can't say I am shocked:

http://redwoodcity-woodside.patch.com/articles/yee-says-death-threats-will-not-deter-his-gun-control-efforts?national=patch&ncid=edlinkuspatc00000006

[VinBucFan]

Tampa's gun buy backs was largely funded by charity (donated sports tickets) and collected more than 2,600 guns including the types of gun "we want off the street":

Garen Wintemute, a University of California-Davis professor who has studied the impact of gun buyback programs, said collecting more than 2,000 firearms in a day is a tremendous success.

"I'm used to hearing numbers of 200 or 300 guns taken," said Wintemute, director of UC Davis' Violence Prevention Research Program. "But (2,665) guns is a lot. Whew. That's a lot."

Gun buybacks historically are not effective in reducing crime, Wintemute said.

"It removes only a small percentage, and the programs tend to remove guns that are not frequently used by criminals, such as hunting rifles," he said.

But times are changing, he said.

Agencies are now offering incentives — such as cash and tickets to events — which have prompted people to turn in a wider array of weaponry, such as assault rifles, he said.

"Guns that are coming into buybacks are different these days," Wintemute said. "They actually look like guns that could be used in crimes. These are the weapons we want off the street."

Chronister said the sheriff's gun swap was "not done as a crime-reduction initiative."

"It's a community service," he said. "If it prevents one unsecured firearm from being out on the street, then that's an extra benefit."

Wintemute said the response to the gun buyback also has a more symbolic meaning.

The 2,665 guns collected "is your community standing up and saying we've had enough," Wintemute said. "It says Tampa's tolerance for firearm violence is decreasing."

http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2013/feb/10/gun-swap-helps-close-cold-case-mysteries-ar-630151/


AND . .  like most gun buybacks, there were "protesters"  trying to prevent people from voluntarily turning in their guns.

gun buybacks are not the solution, but one of many things that can help, so why "protest"?

[VinBucFan]

I have posted numerous examples illustrating that there are TOO MANY GUNS in this country.  One of the responses from the pro-gun crowd has been that all these guns are needed in case our government turns against us.  Tom Brokaw thinks that is crazy:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/18/tom-brokaw-its-far-reaching-to-think-you-need-guns-to-fight-back-against-the-government/

Can anyone prove him wrong by posting a RECENT example of the government taking some action that would require a heavily-armed citizenry to stop? Not some hypothetical, attenuated b.s. but a real concrete example of the federal government taking some action that could've been prevented solely by force or that shows that massive arsenals of privately-owned weapons will soon be needed for use against our own government?

[Biggs3535]

I have posted numerous examples illustrating that there are TOO MANY GUNS in this country.

lolz, this dips*** has illustrated that he's a delusional hypocrite, and that about the extent of PBCBoy's illustrations.

[VinBucFan]

I have posted numerous examples illustrating that there are TOO MANY GUNS in this country.

lolz, this dips*** has illustrated that he's a delusional hypocrite, and that about the extent of PBCBoy's illustrations.

no surprise Buggsy is the first gun owner to avoid the most recent question in favor of the usual name calling.  One trick pony and a scared one at that. 

Buggsy, thanks for never letting me down and never missing an opportunity to illustrate just how hollow and fear-laden your position is.

[VinBucFan]

I have posted numerous examples illustrating that there are TOO MANY GUNS in this country.  One of the responses from the pro-gun crowd has been that all these guns are needed in case our government turns against us.  Tom Brokaw thinks that is crazy:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/18/tom-brokaw-its-far-reaching-to-think-you-need-guns-to-fight-back-against-the-government/

Can anyone prove him wrong by posting a RECENT example of the government taking some action that would require a heavily-armed citizenry to stop? Not some hypothetical, attenuated b.s. but a real concrete example of the federal government taking some action that could've been prevented solely by force or that shows that massive arsenals of privately-owned weapons will soon be needed for use against our own government?

Buggsy was his usual massive FAIL.  Any other pro-gun posters want to put Tom in his place?

[Biggs3535]

Busty ex-porn star busted in stabbing death of boyfriend

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/porn-star-busted-stabbing-death-boyfriend-article-1.1261674


I have now successfully illustrated that there are far TOO MANY KNIVES in this country.  I'm a lawyer, and these are the types of solid points I make on a daily basis.

[Biggs3535]

Man Dies Of Heart Attack While Eating 6,000-calorie Triple Bypass Burger At Heart Attack Grill 

http://jonathanturley.org/2012/02/16/man-dies-of-heart-attack-while-eating-6000-calorie-triple-bypass-burger-at-heart-attack-grill/


I have now successfully illustrated that there are far TOO MANY CHEESEBURGERS in this country.  I'm a lawyer, and these are the types of solid points I make on a daily basis.