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« #6075 : April 10, 2013, 12:49:05 AM »


Report: Jets now want more for Revis
 





Even when there's good news for Darrelle Revis, bad news soon follows.



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Apr 9, 2013 11:26 AM ET


 The drama between the Jets and Darrelle Revis, and the cornerback’s potential move to Tampa Bay, has hit yet another wall.
 

On Sunday, the Jets said they would likely force Revis to attend non-mandatory spring workouts if he wants to receive his $3 million roster bonus, despite his desire to continue rehabbing a knee injury in Arizona.
 
Most analysts, however, believe the Jets’ preferred course of action would be to trade Revis, and that the Buccaneers are the most likely trade partner. And so the snag de jour became Tampa Bay’s presumed unwillingness to give up a first-round pick in this year’s draft for Revis. Now, the Bucs want Revis and now say they are willing to give up a first-rounder for the Jets cornerback.
 
So done deal, right?
 
Not quite. Pro Football Talk reports that the Jets want more than that for their former All-Pro. In fact, they want “a lot more” than just the 13th overall pick from the Bucs, according to the report. What exactly New York wants is still uncertain.
 
The Buccaneers added former 49ers safety Dashon Goldson on March 13, but they’re going to need a lot more help in the secondary to improve a pass defense that ranked last in the NFL last season.

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« #6076 : April 10, 2013, 12:53:30 AM »

Don Banks>INSIDE THE NFL

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Tue April 9, 2013 12:57PM


Despite reports, Revis trade makes too much sense not to happen

Darrelle Revis' trade would likely involve the Bucs' first- and second- or third-rounders in 2013 or '14.
 




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As the saga drags on into yet another week this spring, with any signs of progress becoming harder to discern, it's easy to look at the Darrelle Revis trade talks between New York and Tampa Bay and see a stalemate, stand-off and showdown with no end in sight.
 
Easy, but quite erroneous. Just because Revis for now remains a Jet doesn't mean he can't and won't become a Buc at some point in the coming 16 days, before the first round of the NFL Draft unfolds on the night of April 25. In fact, I think you can almost count on it. Unless somebody gets stupid, short-sighted, or both.
 
This is a trade that almost has to happen. Long before the two sides have a done deal, this is still a deal that both New York and Tampa Bay realize has to be done. The clearly understood realities are these:
 
• The Jets have made it obvious that they have no intention of talking long-term contract extension with free-agent-to-be Revis, and he knows it. There's really only one massive payday awaiting him amid the uncertainty of his rehabilitation from last October's ACL surgery, and it's in Tampa Bay. The Bucs are flush with salary cap room, eager to talk turkey with Revis at upwards of $15 million per year, and have made no secret of their desire to add his star power to their defense. What's for him to not like in that scenario?
 
• Despite what the Jets want the Bucs to believe, Tampa Bay knows New York owner Woody Johnson demands significant value in return for Revis and won't accept him walking away as a free agent next spring, with only a compensatory draft pick to show for it. That much has been understood for months now, ever since Johnson let it be known the Jets would consider moving Revis. In the NFL, once you've introduced the idea of trading one of your key players, you've just taken the first step toward doing so.
 
• There's not yet a trade agreement, but both sides tacitly understand Revis already has essentially made the break in his head. He may technically still be property of the Jets, but he's really an ex-Jet waiting to learn his fate and his future work address. All the drama about New York insisting Revis show up for the start of the team's voluntary offseason workouts next Monday, or forfeit $3 million in bonus money, is proof that this relationship is no longer built for the long term. If the Jets had any intention of keeping Revis, and making this thing work in 2013 or beyond, they wouldn't be trying that squeeze play on a player who is already known to be disillusioned with the organization. The divorce papers have yet to be filed, but that doesn't mean the breakup isn't happening.
 
So, for the time being, we're still in the shadow-dancing portion of our program. Both teams are practicing the fine art of posturing, with the Bucs clearly sending a message earlier this week -- via a Yahoo! Sports story -- that they're growing "impatient'' with the pace of trade talks, and the Jets trying to maintain the illusion of normalcy in expecting Revis to report to work on April 15, as if nothing all that unusual is going on. I think this is where I'm supposed to drop in the almost mandatory Kabuki theater reference to describe the Bucs' and Jets' early-April machinations. It's all for show, with a lot of hidden meaning.
 
He may be playing it quiet and coy for the most part, but I know new Jets general manager John Idzik enough to know he fully realizes the position he's in, and will undertake the most sensible and intelligent way to approach the end game with Revis. With no chance of putting the genie fully back in the bottle in terms of their disgruntled star cornerback, the Jets really only have one good option here: Make their best possible deal with the Bucs in the coming days, and move on. Preferably before both Revis and the Jets have to deal with the messy and unnecessary charade of him returning to the team complex to continue his knee rehab next week.
 
Not that he's asking for it, but if I were to write Idzik something of a Dear John letter, it'd go something like this:
 
Leverage is all well and good, and never to be wasted, as you surely know. But you don't have much to work with in this particular case. As a first-time GM, in the NFL's biggest media market, the last thing you need to start your Jets tenure is a divisive and outspoken player being held against his wishes and becoming the story of your team in 2013. Why deal with that wholly avoidable mess? If you thought the Jets' season looked like mayhem from afar in 2012, do you really want to try living the same sort of madness in your first go-round in New York?
 
Revis is making it clear: He'll be miserable if he must remain a Jet this season, and if you force him to show up and play out his comeback year in contract limbo, he won't go quietly, or without the team paying a price for his unhappiness. Even worse, at the end of the year, you run the risk of Revis leaving New York and signing with arch-rival New England in free agency. Do you really want to give that doomsday scenario any chance of happening? Or to have that distinction added to your resume, even before you get your reputation firmly established in New York?
 
Making the best of a bad situation in this case means trading Revis to Tampa Bay, getting him out of the AFC, and receiving a first-round pick and maybe more from the Bucs in the process. It's not ideal, but it's not the nightmare that 2013 could morph into with Revis around and intent on making the team regret its stance. Don't consider it weakness or an example of letting a player call the shots. Consider it a tough but necessary step in order to not let a player, no matter who he is, hold the franchise hostage.

In your front office experience with the Bucs, Cardinals and Seahawks, you've learned that making the best decision for the long-term good of the franchise isn't always the easiest one. Dealt the hand you're holding -- a roster with multiple needs, an owner intent on not paying his No. 1 cornerback $15 million a year, and a player who is a potential locker-room headache -- the no-brainer option is to pursue the exit strategy that makes the most sense for you.
 
The Bucs are your best trade partner. By now, that's obvious. Don't dawdle and blow the opportunity to bring the Revis saga to a close with some semblance of a successful result. The rest of the NFL, the Jets rabid fan base, and the New York media are watching closely.
 
While relatively narrow, the window for the Revis trade talks is not remotely closing. Not with the draft still more than two weeks away, and the Jets reportedly seeking the Bucs' No. 13 overall pick as the centerpiece of any trade compensation package. This deal still has time to die another two or three times and still come together in a fashion that will make everyone say they knew it was going to happen all along. It does seem like trade talks that linger for a while usually end up happening in the NFL, as Kevin Kolb to Arizona back in 2011 and Alex Smith to Kansas City this year serve to remind us. Wait long enough and the smoke and fire typically converge.
 
As we have seen many times in the NFL, the gap between a stalemate and the striking of an agreement can be almost laughably short. Revis remains a Jet today, but the Bucs still seem to be squarely in his future. New York and Tampa Bay both know the score. Some trades just make too much sense not to happen.
 

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130409/darrelle-revis-trade-new-york-jets-tampa-bay-buccaneers/#ixzz2Q26THTjY

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« #6077 : April 10, 2013, 12:56:23 AM »



Why the Falcons aren't chasing Revis


 April, 9, 2013

 
By Pat Yasinskas | ESPN.com

 
In last Friday’s NFC South chat, I had several Atlanta fans ask why the Falcons aren’t making a play for Darrelle Revis.
 
On the surface, there’s some logic behind their pleas. The Falcons are a team that appears to be on the cusp of a Super Bowl and their only glaring need is at cornerback. Revis, when healthy, might be the best cornerback in the NFL and the Jets certainly appear to be willing to trade him.
 
Ryan But there’s one huge obstacle that makes it pretty much a certainty the Falcons won’t enter the Revis sweepstakes (the Tampa Bay Buccaneers might be the only team in the league that has legitimate interest in Revis). That’s the salary cap.
 
At the moment, the Falcons are only $2 million under this year’s salary cap. That’s not even enough to sign their draft picks. They will get some relief June 1, when the hit for released offensive tackle Tyson Clabo gets divided over this year and next.
 
But it goes much deeper than that. Revis wants a long-term contract that will pay him about $15 million a year. The Falcons are expected to give quarterback Matt Ryan a long-term contract extension that will average somewhere around $20 million sometime this offseason.
 
Even if the Ryan extension is structured to free up cap room this year, there are long-term implications to think about. Ryan’s cap hits would start getting above $15 million starting in 2014. No matter how a deal for Revis is structured, his cap hits would be above $10 million before long.
 
The Falcons have some other highly paid players. They can afford one huge new contract. That money already is earmarked for Ryan. There’s no room to add Revis.
 
The Falcons will address their cornerback situation, but that will have to be done with a reasonably priced free agent or a draft pick.

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« #6078 : April 10, 2013, 02:13:09 AM »

Wtholyf are they talking about!?

My god, the weapons they supply their team, the money spent, active every of season, make playoffs nearly every season.. but yeah, they MUST have revis too.

Spend a week in buccaneer boots for crying out loud. Maybe appreciate your team and owner more.

 ..You know, 'cause they could have owners more concerned with futball, than football.

Ahhh! But even on those many, many, many losing days, the rum is still good. So at least there is that.

Naismith was right about Revis. Everyone else is a dummy.

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« #6079 : April 10, 2013, 02:15:45 AM »

I already appreciate these owners. Moreso since Schiano came.

This space for rent....*sigh* I trusted you coach.

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« #6080 : April 10, 2013, 02:38:50 AM »

I already appreciate these owners. Moreso since Schiano came.

Bah humbug!

The glazers are about the worst owners an NFL team could have.

They have sued fans, bars, radiojockies, etc (basically Tampa area residents)
They let gruden go, because they were tired of "mediocrity" but in fact it was that they wanted to go on the cheap (as evidenced by the years after gruden left).
They bought a team that fanacially dwarfs the bucs, essentially making them a flea on a really big dog.
They chose not to buy up tickets, saying that fans had to come, or else that's what they get.
They hardly ever show up to anything. Do I see them on the sideline ever? Nope. I'm starting to think they're digital creations like Max headroom.
They keep choosing coaches that lack NFL experiance. Dom is the GM, but they can override any signing they want.

It all starts from the top, down. If fans can't see that, they're a gluton for punishment. The sooner they're out of here, the better. Can't wait for a actual ownership that isn't taking five minute phone calls once a month to their GM to only say, "no dominik, you can't spend. That's what draft is for...cya, got more manU things to worry about."

Honestly, I bet once again, the glazers wallets just puckered up and they're just going to offer too low a price so they can avoid his contract and claim something other than "not spending." Like, "we believe in Wright," or some other crazy crap they come up with next. Some excuse will be made either way. Self-sabatage isn't exactly unheard of around here.


Naismith was right about Revis. Everyone else is a dummy.

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« #6081 : April 10, 2013, 03:35:24 AM »

You need to understand the concept of NOT BEING PARANOID!

Take things day to day and calm the hell down with your finger-pointing and you'd realize they've done a damn good job.

Your post is like a conspiracy theoristthatt can "See the aliens all around us" while others can't. God forbid people actually like the  ownership or we're gluttons? Why, because YOU say that?

Riiiiiiiiiiiight....
« : April 10, 2013, 03:40:08 AM Beatles123 »

This space for rent....*sigh* I trusted you coach.

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« #6082 : April 10, 2013, 04:05:53 AM »

Bench and Beatles, this is where I step in and say there s a grain of truth in both of your posts. Bench has several good points beginning with suing locals. This does permanent damage to your fan base and is the last thing you should ever do as an owner. Going cheap a few years only reinforced that. Last year, to take Beatles' side for a moment, was a big step in the right direction. But why not address more positions in FA? Why not go after a Dumervil? Why settle for a Wright when you could have had so much better?  7-9 and five straight seasons of missing the playoffs isn't a "a damn good job" under any objective definition. But Martin, Vjax, David are all great additions. So the Glazers should be given a TBD as should our gm. To be determined. Some good things happening. Some bad and dumb things have happened. I will support the team regardless. But I will withhold praise till I see more. Remember that the average NFL team makes the playoffs 37.5 percent of the time. The Bucs haven't made it in the last five and only twice since winning the Super Bowl.

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« #6083 : April 10, 2013, 07:03:48 AM »

"Damn good job" is a pretty substantial stretch.


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« #6084 : April 10, 2013, 08:03:35 AM »

He is easily the best CB since Deion Sanders. Give the Jets our #13, our third, and another late round pick this year and a 3rd next year. It'll be worth it. HOF talent in his prime. We'll make it happen, I'm sure.

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« #6085 : April 10, 2013, 08:17:54 AM »

The Falcons can't even afford a Revis jersey

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« #6086 : April 10, 2013, 08:44:14 AM »

Dom and Schiano are smart men, Dom has seemingly gotten smarter since Schiano came into the picture but these guys will get our man if they can but they will not overpay or over trade for him.

Look at the wright deal! I know you all hate Wright but he's the best we have right now and we basically backed into a corner and made him take a huge pay cut. Shrewd? Yes but this is a business and there is no place for niceguys, only room for winning. Look at the pats! You pay the guys you need to pay and you let someone else overpay for the rest.

I think everyone learned a valuable lesson from Wright and I think that lesson is why we were so quite on the FA CB class and why we're pushing so hard for Revis. People screamed about us not signing Sean Smith or any of the other guys but they all had question marks just like Wright did and it showed. Many of them got one year deals!

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« #6087 : April 10, 2013, 08:50:29 AM »

Quote from: chace1986 link=topic=
1303161.msg1905596#msg1905596 date=1365591828
"Damn good job" is a pretty substantial stretch.
Indeed. Maybe in the last year they have done well by finding trying to find a coach that will work and by allowing us to spend money.



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« #6088 : April 10, 2013, 08:51:30 AM »

Is Yasinskas just looking to meet his writing quota?

That's a really stupid article.

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« #6089 : April 10, 2013, 10:05:46 AM »

Interesting stuff in here: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/04/10/palladino-it-stinks-to-be-brandon-jacobs-darrelle-revis-and-tim-tebow/

...or not.  The author is not an FSU fan.  :P
« : April 10, 2013, 10:39:19 AM CalicoJack55 »

We will be Carolina ready when we are Carolina ready.
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