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« #6930 : April 18, 2013, 12:26:52 AM »


It’s Time For the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to Move On from Darrelle Revis


Apr 17th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

by Leo Howell




Just over a month ago, in the midst of the free agent frenzy, I asked you, the readers, if you thought the Buccaneers could have a successful offseason without acquiring Darrelle Revis from the New York Jets.
 
Surprisingly, almost two-thirds of voters thought that Mark Dominik and his crew could have a successful spring and summer without splashing the cash, and draft picks, needed to bring in the All-Pro corner and his island. As the offseason has worn on, and it has appeared that Revis was the focus of all the Buccaneers’ efforts, many fans (myself included) had to shift focus as well, and assume the plans for the front office included Revis playing corner at almost any cost.
 
So what if the Jets’ asking price is too high? What if it’s time to just move on, and assume the Jets don’t have a realistic trade value for Revis?
 
I believe it is that time. The games are over. The Jets aren’t being realistic. The Buccaneers have the draft picks they need…
 
It’s time to move on from Darrelle Revis.
 
The latest rumors have the Jets demanding a first, third, and fifth round pick from the Buccaneers for the superstar cornerback. Think about what that means for a second. A first round pick should be spent on a sure starter and possible star (like Revis, who was taken with the 14th pick in the 2007 NFL Draft), a third round pick should be spent on a future starter or role player (Jeremy Zuttah was a third rounder for the Buccaneers), and a fifth round pick should be spent on key depth. And while Darrelle Revis is almost certainly better than any player in this years’ draft (but remember, at least 13 teams didn’t see Revis as being a future All-Pro coming out of college, either), the combination of three players who could all make a positive impact on the Buccaneers for years to come does add up to a valuable combination.
 
What makes the group of draftees even more valuable is their salaries. The 13th overall pick will make no more than three million dollars per season, and a third or fifth round selection would make much less than that. So for a combined sum of less than one-third of what it would cost to sign Revis, the Buccaneers could conceivably add a starting corner, a potential starter at tight end, and a backup running back, all of whom would play a key role in 2013. Those are realistic targets with the three picks the Jets are demanding for Revis, and it would come at a ridiculously discounted rate.
 
So now combine both elements of this potential trade. We’re not only talking about giving up multiple draft choices which all have potential value (and could all be key contributors in the future), but also sending away those picks to spend 15 million dollars per year on a cornerback who is at the peak of his career, but coming off of a serious injury. Signing Revis to a four or five year deal means committing to him until he enters his early 30′s, when his value will inevitably start to decline. Compare that to the low risk of signing three rookies, who are all entering their athletic primes, and are extremely cost controlled.
 
The prospect of adding a single, dominant player is certainly attractive. Revis is a uniquely gifted athlete, and he would make the Buccaneers better. But at what cost, and at what risk? The addition of a single, dominant player by trade is usually reserved for teams who are on the verge of contention for a Super Bowl, and need just one key piece. Look at the Peyton Manning trade to Denver as a perfect example. That was a team ripe with talent all over the field, and lacking the elite quarterback needed to win a Super Bowl. Now they have that one player they needed, and they’re considered favorites to win it all heading into 2013.

The Buccaneers are still a couple of years away from truly being a perennial threat to win the NFC and contend for a Super Bowl. They may very well surprise a few media types and opposing head coaches and win double digit games in 2013, and that could be because of Darrelle Revis. But you don’t have to look much further than the Baltimore Ravens’ Super Bowl winning defense to see the recipe for success. The team was littered with homegrown talent on both offense and defense, with Anquan Boldin being the only notable star on the team who wasn’t drafted by the franchise or signed as an undrafted free agent.
 
So while adding Revis is certainly tempting, the wise and rational thing to do is to keep the draft choices and potentially add three key contributors for the future, and keep cap space available to sign other, more reasonably priced star players. Financial flexibility and reasonable spending has set the Buccaneers up with all the cap space they need as they rebuild under Greg Schiano. Keeping that cap space open and keeping valuable draft choices seems to fit the plan much more than blowing a large portion of salary and a massive haul of draft potential on one player who might be a sure thing, but is only one man.
 
In other words, rather than Revis Island, I would like to see the Buccaneers use those draft picks on the Desmond Trufant – Gavin Escobar – Le’Veon Bell archipelago, and still have some money left to re-sign our own, and sign more talent next year, and the year after. Because the last thing Buccaneers’ fans want is to be back in the hunt for a year or two, only to fall out due to overspending and leaving the bank empty when other needs arise.




http://thepewterplank.com/2013/04/17/its-time-for-the-tampa-bay-buccaneers-to-move-on-from-darrelle-revis/

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« #6931 : April 18, 2013, 12:28:54 AM »

Schefter: '60-40' Revis gets dealt to Bucs


 A source tells ESPN's Adam Schefter Darrelle Revis is "60-40" to get dealt to the Bucs.

Schefter dropped the nugget on ESPN's NFL Live. Both sides are doubling down in their attempts to leverage the other, but the fact remains that New York has no other viable trade partner, and that Tampa desperately wants to land the league's top cornerback. The posturing could last until the start of the draft, but a move makes too much sense not to happen.


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« #6932 : April 18, 2013, 01:52:36 AM »

Schefter: '60-40' Revis gets dealt to Bucs




Way to go out on a limb there Schefter.


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« #6933 : April 18, 2013, 03:26:29 AM »

Ive been on board with bringing in Revis for much of the offseason, but only at the right cost, which apparently is below what the Jets are asking if you believe the reports. Im very quickly changing my tune to leave him be, and if he proves hes back at 100% sign him next off season when he more than likely will become a free agent IMO, like Goldson this year.

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« #6934 : April 18, 2013, 03:36:00 AM »

Ive been on board with bringing in Revis for much of the offseason, but only at the right cost, which apparently is below what the Jets are asking if you believe the reports. Im very quickly changing my tune to leave him be, and if he proves hes back at 100% sign him next off season when he more than likely will become a free agent IMO, like Goldson this year.




Only trouble with that is, the price will skyrocket.


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« #6935 : April 18, 2013, 03:40:52 AM »

But how many teams will be able to afford it to get into a bidding war with us? I realize we have alot of extensions coming up, but if our FO wants him enough, theyll find a way to work around it all.

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« #6936 : April 18, 2013, 04:20:56 AM »

Realistically, if you wan Revis, now is the time. The notion of getting him next year seems like a pipe dream.
1. He could price himself out of our range
2. He simply might not want to come here
3. He could punish us if he was left to suffer with a lousy Jets team one more year
4. Another trade scenario could open up with another team
If we go 7 and 9 in 2013 without him, no way he comes here in 2014 too.

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« #6937 : April 18, 2013, 04:24:24 AM »

yeah.  A lot to mull over after really looking at it...Bucs are playing the Revis deal well, so far by my poo flinging argument.  But they have mishandled free agency, imvho.
Without a doubt, although once upon a time many of us wanted Doug Free and he turned out to be a bust. We need about four or five more good players, with or without Revis.

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« #6938 : April 18, 2013, 05:52:33 AM »

Ive been on board with bringing in Revis for much of the offseason, but only at the right cost, which apparently is below what the Jets are asking if you believe the reports. Im very quickly changing my tune to leave him be, and if he proves hes back at 100% sign him next off season when he more than likely will become a free agent IMO, like Goldson this year.


Only trouble with that is, the price will skyrocket.

Skyrocket to what?  Keep in mind he will be 29 years old going into the 2014 season and teams still have to meet the cap and be able to keep other players. I have doubts the price would go up at all.  Even if the price did go up a couple million, I'd rather pay a little more next year knowing he didn't lose a step or worse.  Unfortunately, though, this is all moot for the deal is inevitable and will happen before draft day.
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« #6939 : April 18, 2013, 07:31:48 AM »

But how many teams will be able to afford it to get into a bidding war with us? I realize we have alot of extensions coming up, but if our FO wants him enough, theyll find a way to work around it all.
You've got to assume that Dallas & Washington will be players for him in 2014 if he hits FA.
Their punishment for breaking the cap rules that never existed ends and they are $16 million better off than in 2013 right out the gate (depending on how contracts were structured to cover for the lame penalties)

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« #6940 : April 18, 2013, 08:44:02 AM »

But how many teams will be able to afford it to get into a bidding war with us? I realize we have alot of extensions coming up, but if our FO wants him enough, theyll find a way to work around it all.
You've got to assume that Dallas & Washington will be players for him in 2014 if he hits FA.
Their punishment for breaking the cap rules that never existed ends and they are $16 million better off than in 2013 right out the gate (depending on how contracts were structured to cover for the lame penalties)

Maybe, but Dallas has Carr and Mo Claiborne don't see them tying that much $$ in the CB position, then again it is Ol Jerrah. 

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« #6941 : April 18, 2013, 08:59:33 AM »

Dallas, no, but Washington, yes. Don't rule out Philly and maybe New England and maybe some other teams we haven't considered ...

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« #6942 : April 18, 2013, 09:05:04 AM »

Idzki just said trading Revis is an option! Lol, wow, just wow. Thanks for breaking the news a month late.


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« #6943 : April 18, 2013, 09:07:40 AM »

Wasn't today suppose to be our self imposed deadline for the Revis deal?

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« #6944 : April 18, 2013, 10:24:15 AM »

Wasn't today suppose to be our self imposed deadline for the Revis deal?
According to all the positioning we have done, "yes." It's all leverage talk.


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