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« #7065 : April 19, 2013, 07:47:35 PM »

why does Revis have to be greedy cause he wants big money?

This issue with MEvis is that it's a constant topic of conversation

So hes selfish because he wants to be paid his worth?

He's selfish because he wants to get paid for his work when the team can cut him without any remorse or penalty?


Get off your high horse dude.

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« #7066 : April 19, 2013, 07:54:39 PM »

This will impact the inclusion of Blount in a trade...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/19/jets-reportedly-make-trade-offer-for-chris-ivory/

Jets reportedly make trade offer for Chris Ivory



Running back Chris Ivory signed his restricted free agent tender with the Saints on Friday, which eliminated the slim possibility that a team would try to sign him to an offer sheet that would cost them a second-round pick if New Orleans opted not to match.

It didn’t guarantee that Ivory will remain with the Saints for the 2013 season, however. The Jets hosted Ivory for a visit last week and they were believed to be interested in trading a late-round pick to New Orleans in exchange for the veteran running back.

According to a report from Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News, that interest is strong enough for the Jets to go ahead and make just such an offer. They’ve let the Saints know what they’d like to give up for Ivory and the Saints will now likely decide whether that’s enough for them to part with a player they tendered at the second-round level to help ensure he remained under their control.

Ivory would go from a crowded backfield in New Orleans to a crowded one with the Jets, although, as with quarterbacks, quantity and quality don’t really add up for the Jets. Instead of Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles and Mark Ingram, Ivory would have to beat out Mike Goodson, Bilal Powell and Joe McKnight. That’s an easier path to playing time on paper, but only if the two teams agree on terms for a trade.


Shows how little the rest of the league thinks of Legarrette's dumb ass ...they could easily have Blount thrown in the Revis deal if they wanted him.

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« #7067 : April 19, 2013, 08:19:18 PM »

This will impact the inclusion of Blount in a trade...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/19/jets-reportedly-make-trade-offer-for-chris-ivory/

Jets reportedly make trade offer for Chris Ivory



Running back Chris Ivory signed his restricted free agent tender with the Saints on Friday, which eliminated the slim possibility that a team would try to sign him to an offer sheet that would cost them a second-round pick if New Orleans opted not to match.

It didn’t guarantee that Ivory will remain with the Saints for the 2013 season, however. The Jets hosted Ivory for a visit last week and they were believed to be interested in trading a late-round pick to New Orleans in exchange for the veteran running back.

According to a report from Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News, that interest is strong enough for the Jets to go ahead and make just such an offer. They’ve let the Saints know what they’d like to give up for Ivory and the Saints will now likely decide whether that’s enough for them to part with a player they tendered at the second-round level to help ensure he remained under their control.

Ivory would go from a crowded backfield in New Orleans to a crowded one with the Jets, although, as with quarterbacks, quantity and quality don’t really add up for the Jets. Instead of Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles and Mark Ingram, Ivory would have to beat out Mike Goodson, Bilal Powell and Joe McKnight. That’s an easier path to playing time on paper, but only if the two teams agree on terms for a trade.


Shows how little the rest of the league thinks of Legarrette's dumb ass ...they could easily have Blount thrown in the Revis deal if they wanted him.

On the other hand it could simply mean the Jets are removing a piece off the chessboard in effect forcing the Bucs to up the draft pick ante....



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« #7068 : April 19, 2013, 08:37:54 PM »

why does Revis have to be greedy cause he wants big money?

This issue with MEvis is that it's a constant topic of conversation

So hes selfish because he wants to be paid his worth?

He's selfish because he wants to get paid for his work when the team can cut him without any remorse or penalty?


Get off your high horse dude.

Firstly, I ride in a Lincoln, not horses.

Secondly, I have no problem with him being paid his worth. But when he's bltching 2 yrs later, i take issue.

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« #7069 : April 19, 2013, 08:42:47 PM »

why does Revis have to be greedy cause he wants big money?

This issue with MEvis is that it's a constant topic of conversation

So hes selfish because he wants to be paid his worth?

He's selfish because he wants to get paid for his work when the team can cut him without any remorse or penalty?


Get off your high horse dude.

Firstly, I ride in a Lincoln, not horses.

Secondly, I have no problem with him being paid his worth. But when he's bltching 2 yrs later, i take issue.

So youre one of those fortune tellers too? You dont know dude is gonna complain. If the Jets had paid him his worth he wouldnt have held out. Point blank.

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« #7070 : April 19, 2013, 08:45:11 PM »

Secondly, I have no problem with him being paid his worth. But when he's bltching 2 yrs later, i take issue.

is he bltching because woody johnson lied to him?

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« #7071 : April 19, 2013, 09:10:53 PM »

why does Revis have to be greedy cause he wants big money?

This issue with MEvis is that it's a constant topic of conversation

So hes selfish because he wants to be paid his worth?

He's selfish because he wants to get paid for his work when the team can cut him without any remorse or penalty?


Get off your high horse dude.

Firstly, I ride in a Lincoln, not horses.

Secondly, I have no problem with him being paid his worth. But when he's bltching 2 yrs later, i take issue.

So youre one of those fortune tellers too? You dont know dude is gonna complain. If the Jets had paid him his worth he wouldnt have held out. Point blank.

Don't need to be a fortune teller to know that history has a tendency to repeat itself.

You also don't need to be up on high horse to notice it...you do however need to not have your head buried in the sand.

Point blank.


Hell, brees might not be as accurate as manziel.

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« #7072 : April 19, 2013, 10:16:04 PM »

My head is in the sand, but you are the one who is assuming that he's gonna hold out yet again. See how that works?



Calling a man selfish because he wants to make sure hes paid accordingly is ridiculous.


But ill let you predict the future types tel it.

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« #7073 : April 20, 2013, 12:53:00 AM »

Bucs would look bad without Darrelle Revis

 April, 18, 2013
 
By Pat Yasinskas | ESPN.com

 

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Cornerback Darrelle Revis certainly has the star power that would get Bucs fans fired up.
With each day that passes without the Tampa Bay Buccaneers trading for Darrelle Revis, the more convinced I become they will trade for the cornerback.
 
New York Jets general manager John Idzik and Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik, the guys who used to brew the coffee and make copies when Rich McKay, Jerry Angelo and Tim Ruskell ran Tampa Bay’s personnel department, are holding a very public staring contest.
 
For more than a month, we’ve been hearing rumors about Tampa Bay dealing for Revis. You can throw out the ones that were floated to try to get Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez involved. But I think everything else -- such as the various compensation packages that have been discussed and the Jets hitting the “pause button" -- is based, at least somewhat, in truth.
 
The Jets almost have to get rid of Revis because he is headed into the final year of his contract and New York has no intention of giving him a massive long-term extension. That alone, I used to think, gave the Buccaneers the upper hand.
 
But now I’m not so sure. I’m thinking the closer it gets to next week’s NFL draft, the more the Jets have the upper hand.
 
Quite simply, the Buccaneers have set themselves up for (perceived) failure if they don’t trade for Revis.
 
They’re sitting there with more than $30 million in salary-cap room. They’re the only team in the NFL with the room to pay Revis, and it’s widely believed they’re the only team with interest in trading for a guy who might be the best cornerback on the planet but is coming off a major knee injury.
 
I get it that Dominik is playing the waiting game because he doesn’t want to give up too much of his team’s present or future as compensation. That’s smart and the prudent thing to do. But there’s going to have to come a point very soon where Dominik has to make the deal.
 
Bucs coach Greg Schiano has to wonder how much Darrelle Revis would help his roster, one that lacks sizzle.
Anything less than Revis in pewter is going to cause problems in Tampa Bay. There already is a large segment of the fan base that thinks the Glazer family, which owns the team, doesn’t spend enough money. Presumably, that thinking has played a role in the Buccaneers having trouble selling out Raymond James Stadium in recent years.
 
There are other reasons for the attendance issue. This franchise has been lacking in star power for a long time. There was sizzle when Jon Gruden was the coach, Derrick Brooks was tackling everything that moved and doing it with class, and the likes of Keyshawn Johnson, Warren Sapp and Simeon Rice were as entertaining off the field as on it.
 
These days, the Bucs are coached by Greg Schiano. He might be a good coach, but the flashiest thing you can say about Schiano is that he once held an office in the same building as former Rutgers basketball coach Mike Rice.
 
The Bucs have some nice young players (Doug Martin, Lavonte David, Gerald McCoy and Josh Freeman) and some talented veterans (Vincent Jackson and Carl Nicks). Perhaps it’s because Schiano prefers his players to stay out of the spotlight, but Tampa Bay’s current roster is dull.
 
Revis would change all that. The guy would be the biggest star to walk into One Buccaneer Place since the day Brooks was shown the door. Heck, Revis could end up being bigger than Brooks.
 
First off, Revis would go a long way toward fixing a pass defense that was worst in the league last year. I know some fans out there think the Bucs would be better off not giving up several draft picks when no one is sure how healthy Revis’ knee is.
 
But let’s say the Bucs stay put at No. 13. They’ll have to draft either Florida State’s Xavier Rhodes or Washington’s Desmond Trufant if they want a cornerback. Or maybe they’ll get really daring and trade up into the top five to get Alabama’s Dee Milliner.
 
I’m not saying any of those three guys are bad players, but they’re not as good as a healthy Revis. And when it comes to flash, they would bring about as much excitement as last year’s first-round pick, safety Mark Barron, who is one of the quietest guys on the roster.
 
That’s why the Buccaneers need to go ahead and make the Revis trade. If they don’t, they’re going to look really bad to their fans, who have been waiting for this deal for weeks.
 
Even after spending big money on Nicks and Jackson in free agency last year and safety Dashon Goldson this year, ownership still needs to convince fans that it’s willing to pay whatever it takes to put a winning product on the field.
 
Revis would make the Buccaneers a better football team, bring some national attention and put people in the stands.
 
If the Buccaneers somehow don’t pull off a deal that has looked like a sure thing for a long time, they’re going to have a lot of explaining to do to a fan base that doesn’t want to hear anything but that Revis is coming to Tampa Bay.

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« #7074 : April 20, 2013, 04:34:08 AM »

They can funnel this guy in as a buc because of the unique situation. Of they don't bring him in now, they won't ever bring him here.

Once he has options, he'll go somewhere else. Gotta pounce now.

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« #7075 : April 20, 2013, 05:16:11 AM »

My head is in the sand, but you are the one who is assuming that he's gonna hold out yet again. See how that works?



Calling a man selfish because he wants to make sure hes paid accordingly is ridiculous.


But ill let you predict the future types tel it.

No one is assuming that he will hold out again. All that is being said, is that given his history, it would not be all that surprising to see him hold out again.

This really shouldn't be that difficult to comprehend.
« : April 20, 2013, 05:40:45 AM chace1986 »


Hell, brees might not be as accurate as manziel.

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« #7076 : April 20, 2013, 05:33:54 AM »

My head is in the sand, but you are the one who is assuming that he's gonna hold out yet again. See how that works?



Calling a man selfish because he wants to make sure hes paid accordingly is ridiculous.


But ill let you predict the future types tel it.
Wait, if he's not a selfish, money grabber that is out for himself and is instead just wanting to be paid accordingly why isn't he running to Idjit begging to reduce his salary for this year when the team needs cap help.
It's not like he's worth what he's on the books for based on last season and possible injury concerns, if he only wants to be paid accordingly it should work both ways.

I'm starting to think the guy has self esteem issues, he has to feel loved by the team and it has to be shown in the $ value they pay him, if his ego isn't stroked continually by them he isn't happy. He got all butt hurt when Sherman didn't include him in the debate for best corner in the league, Sherm even stated that it was down to the injury and if Revis comes back 100% he will be right in the mix (was Revis expecting to be considered the best CB even when he had just 1 leg and couldn't play?). The slightest little thing that can be taken in a negative way and the toys get thrown out the pram.

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« #7077 : April 20, 2013, 05:40:26 AM »

OK, am I the only one worried they're talking to the saints?
Why worry?
It's not like they can even entertain the thought of getting Revis with the cap situation they're in thanks to Brees being the selfless, high character guy that he is.
It's just the Jets looking for a cheap, quality, available back to improve the situation.

As far as Dolorous Jasons comment about what the rest of the league thinks of Blount, ever think maybe Blount simply isn't available and the Bucs might actually want to keep him as a main backup rather than create yet another hole to fill?
Just because you don't like him doesn't mean the team doesn't.

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« #7078 : April 20, 2013, 07:36:59 AM »

Problem with that theory is the Bucs already leaked to the public that they are shopping him.

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« #7079 : April 20, 2013, 07:46:44 AM »

Bucs would look bad without Darrelle Revis

 April, 18, 2013
 
By Pat Yasinskas | ESPN.com

 

Thearon W. Henderson/Getty Images

Cornerback Darrelle Revis certainly has the star power that would get Bucs fans fired up.
With each day that passes without the Tampa Bay Buccaneers trading for Darrelle Revis, the more convinced I become they will trade for the cornerback.
 
New York Jets general manager John Idzik and Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik, the guys who used to brew the coffee and make copies when Rich McKay, Jerry Angelo and Tim Ruskell ran Tampa Bay’s personnel department, are holding a very public staring contest.
 
For more than a month, we’ve been hearing rumors about Tampa Bay dealing for Revis. You can throw out the ones that were floated to try to get Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez involved. But I think everything else -- such as the various compensation packages that have been discussed and the Jets hitting the “pause button" -- is based, at least somewhat, in truth.
 
The Jets almost have to get rid of Revis because he is headed into the final year of his contract and New York has no intention of giving him a massive long-term extension. That alone, I used to think, gave the Buccaneers the upper hand.
 
But now I’m not so sure. I’m thinking the closer it gets to next week’s NFL draft, the more the Jets have the upper hand.
 
Quite simply, the Buccaneers have set themselves up for (perceived) failure if they don’t trade for Revis.
 
They’re sitting there with more than $30 million in salary-cap room. They’re the only team in the NFL with the room to pay Revis, and it’s widely believed they’re the only team with interest in trading for a guy who might be the best cornerback on the planet but is coming off a major knee injury.
 
I get it that Dominik is playing the waiting game because he doesn’t want to give up too much of his team’s present or future as compensation. That’s smart and the prudent thing to do. But there’s going to have to come a point very soon where Dominik has to make the deal.
 
Bucs coach Greg Schiano has to wonder how much Darrelle Revis would help his roster, one that lacks sizzle.
Anything less than Revis in pewter is going to cause problems in Tampa Bay. There already is a large segment of the fan base that thinks the Glazer family, which owns the team, doesn’t spend enough money. Presumably, that thinking has played a role in the Buccaneers having trouble selling out Raymond James Stadium in recent years.
 
There are other reasons for the attendance issue. This franchise has been lacking in star power for a long time. There was sizzle when Jon Gruden was the coach, Derrick Brooks was tackling everything that moved and doing it with class, and the likes of Keyshawn Johnson, Warren Sapp and Simeon Rice were as entertaining off the field as on it.
 
These days, the Bucs are coached by Greg Schiano. He might be a good coach, but the flashiest thing you can say about Schiano is that he once held an office in the same building as former Rutgers basketball coach Mike Rice.
 
The Bucs have some nice young players (Doug Martin, Lavonte David, Gerald McCoy and Josh Freeman) and some talented veterans (Vincent Jackson and Carl Nicks). Perhaps it’s because Schiano prefers his players to stay out of the spotlight, but Tampa Bay’s current roster is dull.
 
Revis would change all that. The guy would be the biggest star to walk into One Buccaneer Place since the day Brooks was shown the door. Heck, Revis could end up being bigger than Brooks.
 
First off, Revis would go a long way toward fixing a pass defense that was worst in the league last year. I know some fans out there think the Bucs would be better off not giving up several draft picks when no one is sure how healthy Revis’ knee is.
 
But let’s say the Bucs stay put at No. 13. They’ll have to draft either Florida State’s Xavier Rhodes or Washington’s Desmond Trufant if they want a cornerback. Or maybe they’ll get really daring and trade up into the top five to get Alabama’s Dee Milliner.
 
I’m not saying any of those three guys are bad players, but they’re not as good as a healthy Revis. And when it comes to flash, they would bring about as much excitement as last year’s first-round pick, safety Mark Barron, who is one of the quietest guys on the roster.
 
That’s why the Buccaneers need to go ahead and make the Revis trade. If they don’t, they’re going to look really bad to their fans, who have been waiting for this deal for weeks.
 
Even after spending big money on Nicks and Jackson in free agency last year and safety Dashon Goldson this year, ownership still needs to convince fans that it’s willing to pay whatever it takes to put a winning product on the field.
 
Revis would make the Buccaneers a better football team, bring some national attention and put people in the stands.
 
If the Buccaneers somehow don’t pull off a deal that has looked like a sure thing for a long time, they’re going to have a lot of explaining to do to a fan base that doesn’t want to hear anything but that Revis is coming to Tampa Bay.


This is my position in a nutshell....the trade HAS to happen or credibility has been forfeit.



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