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Tampa Bay Buccaneers Meet with More 2013 NFL Draft Prospects

Mar 30th, 2013 at 11:24 am

by Leo Howell
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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been busy this offseason, despite the perceived lack of action, and have certainly been working on a Darrelle Revis trade and scouting free agents. But perhaps the most important aspect of the offseason for the Buccaneers, considering Mark Dominik’s plan to build a team the right way and avoid overspending on free agents, is the draft preparation. We have learned this week about a few more prospects who will be visiting with the Buccaneers, so let’s take a look at the players the Bucs have taken the time to meet with.
 
Since the last article about the draft prospects the Buccaneers have met with, Walter Football has updated their list of players the Buccaneers have met with, adding a few interesting prospects. Let’s take a look at the new ones on the list.
 
It turns out that the Buccaneers have met multiple times with defensive end Margus Hunt from Southern Methodist. The 6’8 defensive end has only been playing football since 2009, and is a former track and field champion in his native Estonia. He runs a 4.5 forty yard dash, can bench 225 pounds 38 times, and is still learning the game of football despite putting up 8 sacks as a senior. In 2009, in his first year playing football, Hunt blocked seven. SEVEN. field goals and punts. His height, leaping ability, and awareness are through the roof on special teams, meaning he would never truly be a bust, but may fail to completely deliver on his second round prospect grade.
 

The problems with Hunt are the same as most inexperienced players, and the same as most tall defensive linemen. He has a tendency to get blown up and held up thanks to his large frame, and has trouble getting leverage on other players. He also is still learning the game and doesn’t have the consistency most teams would like in an every down defensive end. He would fit well in Tampa Bay, however, because he’d be able to come in as a pass rushing specialist. It will be interesting to see if he’s targeted in a trade-up scenario by Mark Dominik, as he’s currently slated to go in the middle or end of the second round.
 







The Buccaneers have also continued to meet with running backs, having another meeting with Texas A&M runner Christine Michael, and Michigan State bruiser Le’Veon Bell. Both are interesting change of pace backs for Doug Martin, and both will be available in the middle of the draft. Michael has been on the Buccaneers’ radar for quite a while, whereas Bell’s status on the Buccaneers’ draft board has only recently been revealed. We’ve discussed Michael before, but Bell has yet to be discussed. He’s a 230 pound running back with decent speed, and is the kind of player who works hard to get something out of every play. He’s not going to truck every defender with strength and balance, and he’s not going to run past every defender with speed, he’s just going to churn out yards consistently and make himself difficult to tackle. Either of these players would be excellent additions to the Buccaneers’ running attack.
 
Another interesting prospect the Buccaneers have met with is Corey Lemonier, linebacker from Auburn. He’s a pass rush specialist who started the 2012 season well for the Tigers, but like the rest of the Auburn program, did not play well in the SEC schedule. He’s definitely not big enough to be a defensive end, meaning he’d have to be a stand-up rusher, as his 255 pounds wouldn’t hold up with his hand on the ground. But with the loss of Quincy Black, and uncertainty at the strongside linebacker position, Lemonier could be an option to rush the passer from that position.
 
The Buccaneers have also met with Tyran Mathieu, cornerback formerly of LSU. Most of you already know all about “The Honey Badger”, but just in case you don’t, he’s a former top flight cornerback from LSU who ran into trouble with the law and the school’s rules and found himself out of college football for this past season. He’s a very dynamic player who makes an impact as a defender and as a return man. He is quick, but also physical, especially considering his diminutive size. It will be interesting to see if the Bucs take a flyer on Mathieu, as he could wind up being a very good NFL cornerback. His off-the-field problems could be a major headache, so Tyran would have to prove to Mark Dominik and Greg Schiano that he is a changed man.




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« #1 : March 31, 2013, 12:11:17 AM »

Hunt multiple times...   I am not sure how I feel about that...

2nd round?


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« #2 : March 31, 2013, 12:21:31 AM »

Christine Michael looks good!!

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« #3 : March 31, 2013, 01:29:36 AM »

definitely not crazy about hunt, the dude is 26 and while he's still learning the game, definitely hasn't shown to be a "football player" to date, i'm hoping that we go with a guy like carradine in the second if he's there, but some have indicated that he may not make it out of the first round now that he's recovering well from the injury

i'd be pretty excited about mathieu, he'd be schiano's project and a potential difference maker on defense and special teams, and those units certainly need as many standouts as we can get

don't know much about lemonier but we need a OLB, and one that can rush the passer on third down seems like it'd be a good fit for this team

the fact that the front office is meeting with these running backs seems to hint that they feel pretty confident they'll be able to trade blount, and maybe have given up on last year's draftee, Michael Smith, which is a bummer because he seemed to have some potential when he was drafted, although i don't recall him playing much, if at all, during the regular season

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« #4 : March 31, 2013, 07:59:28 AM »

Michael Smith makes me scratch my head.  He supposedly ran a 4.3 and he gets tracked down from behind easily in the pre season last year. Did they actually pay the scout who found this kid?  Someone didn't do their homework.

Hunt is this year's JPP.  I'm not much of a gambler so I would stay away but he has JPP potential.  Running a 4.5 at 6-8 is sick.

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« #5 : March 31, 2013, 08:24:02 AM »

It looks like our draft is starting to shape up a bit...

Desmond Trufant - Best man to man CB in the draft would be perfect next to Darrelle Revis. He would be able to shut down the other side of the field man to man wise but sometimes struggles with zone. Hence Dashon Goldson and Mark Barron  ---> Pro Comparison: Tramon Williams
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-comparison/0ap2000000151795/Washington-CB-Desmond-Trufant-pro-comparison

Margus Hunt - Good on special teams, can provide a rush from the outside, could be a great DE in the end somewhat like JJ Watt ---> Pro Comparison: JJ Watt
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-comparison/0ap2000000151785/SMU-defensive-end-Margus-Hunt-pro-comparison

Christine Michael - Could be a nice steal, would be a great backup to Dougie, would instantly be 2nd on the depth and worth a 4-5 Round selection ---> Pro Comparison: Chris Ivory
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/christine-michael?id=2539322

Tyrann Mathieu - Off the field issues but worth a mid round pick, he can be the returner we need and can really help generating turnovers ---> Pro Comparison: Ronde Barber (obviously not projected to be a hall of famer but similar to Ronde when he came out of college minus the drug issues.
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2013tmathieu.php

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« #6 : March 31, 2013, 08:34:11 AM »

Michael Smith makes me scratch my head.  He supposedly ran a 4.3 and he gets tracked down from behind easily in the pre season last year. Did they actually pay the scout who found this kid?  Someone didn't do their homework.

Hunt is this year's JPP.  I'm not much of a gambler so I would stay away but he has JPP potential.  Running a 4.5 at 6-8 is sick.
He could run a 4.3, but a big difference in straight line speed and football speed.


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« #7 : March 31, 2013, 08:39:24 AM »

I'll take Margus Hunt, Christine Michael, & Tyran Mathieu ... problem is, those are depth players and they really don't solve areas of concern for me.    Depth is very important, but we still have a few areas we need starters.

This is probably why they don't want to give up this years first for Revis.  They need it to try and trade way down to pick up an extra 2nd rounder, or more.   As long as we have 2 starting caliber CB's and a starting caliber DT, I wouldn't mind those 3 guys in the draft.

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« #8 : March 31, 2013, 08:44:25 AM »

Hunt is like 26 or going to be, I really don't want a player as raw as him at all.


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« #9 : March 31, 2013, 11:17:57 AM »

Would love Margus Hunt and I'm sure Schiano would too. Dude is gonna be a beast and is a very good learner. Not as "raw" as most of you think and he's mature enough to step in right away.

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« #10 : March 31, 2013, 11:25:45 AM »

It looks like our draft is starting to shape up a bit...

Desmond Trufant - Best man to man CB in the draft would be perfect next to Darrelle Revis. He would be able to shut down the other side of the field man to man wise but sometimes struggles with zone. Hence Dashon Goldson and Mark Barron  ---> Pro Comparison: Tramon Williams
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-comparison/0ap2000000151795/Washington-CB-Desmond-Trufant-pro-comparison

Margus Hunt - Good on special teams, can provide a rush from the outside, could be a great DE in the end somewhat like JJ Watt ---> Pro Comparison: JJ Watt
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-comparison/0ap2000000151785/SMU-defensive-end-Margus-Hunt-pro-comparison

Christine Michael - Could be a nice steal, would be a great backup to Dougie, would instantly be 2nd on the depth and worth a 4-5 Round selection ---> Pro Comparison: Chris Ivory
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/christine-michael?id=2539322

Tyrann Mathieu - Off the field issues but worth a mid round pick, he can be the returner we need and can really help generating turnovers ---> Pro Comparison: Ronde Barber (obviously not projected to be a hall of famer but similar to Ronde when he came out of college minus the drug issues.
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2013tmathieu.php

Would be a great first four, followed by some depth along the oline picks and special teamers

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« #11 : March 31, 2013, 12:35:20 PM »

It looks like our draft is starting to shape up a bit...

Desmond Trufant - Best man to man CB in the draft

No, that would be Jamar Taylor


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« #12 : March 31, 2013, 12:38:44 PM »

Michael Smith makes me scratch my head.  He supposedly ran a 4.3 and he gets tracked down from behind easily in the pre season last year. Did they actually pay the scout who found this kid?  Someone didn't do their homework.

Hunt is this year's JPP.  I'm not much of a gambler so I would stay away but he has JPP potential.  Running a 4.5 at 6-8 is sick.
He could run a 4.3, but a big difference in straight line speed and football speed.
couldnt even start at a crappy college so why would you expect him to do much at the next level?


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« #13 : March 31, 2013, 01:06:54 PM »

Hunt is an intriguing player but i just dont see a fit here. hes athletic and all but just looks like hed be better as a 3-4 DE. hes also a bit raw. i wouldnt hate it if we picked him but im just not sure how we would use him. id rather take a corner with that pick and fix the pass defense.

i like the idea of grabbing christine michael in the mid rounds because hes a different type of runner from martin. Bell im not as high on because hes very similar to legarrette blount. hes a little slow to get going but once he starts moving hes hard to stop.

i dont want tyrann mathiue at all because we would likely have to take him with a 2nd or 3rd round pick and i dont want to use a high pick on a player with his red flags. if we want a talented nickel player who can return punts and can make some splashy plays we could target Greg Reid in the 7th or even as an UDFA. very similar player who is a very dangerous returner, makes splash plays but isnt always reliable in coverage deep, has the same character concerns.

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« #14 : March 31, 2013, 03:23:08 PM »

Michael Smith makes me scratch my head.  He supposedly ran a 4.3 and he gets tracked down from behind easily in the pre season last year. Did they actually pay the scout who found this kid?  Someone didn't do their homework.

Hunt is this year's JPP.  I'm not much of a gambler so I would stay away but he has JPP potential.  Running a 4.5 at 6-8 is sick.
He could run a 4.3, but a big difference in straight line speed and football speed.
couldnt even start at a crappy college so why would you expect him to do much at the next level?
add in that he was a 6th round pick lol

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