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« : April 13, 2013, 08:49:56 PM »

http://articles.philly.com/2013-04-12/news/38494337_1_gosnell-employee-tina-baldwin-abortions

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« : April 14, 2013, 08:49:24 PM dbucfan »

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« #1 : April 15, 2013, 05:59:48 PM »

Not getting covered because it would reflect negatively on the abortion industry.  Pretty sad people think our news isn't completely biased to the point of having become propaganda.


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« #2 : April 16, 2013, 12:17:16 AM »


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« #3 : April 16, 2013, 02:00:02 AM »



And anyone who passes that along under their real name will forever be labelled a bigot and sexist.

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« #4 : April 16, 2013, 02:42:09 AM »

I'm all for abortion.  Do it within 2 months of the pregnancy.

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« #5 : April 16, 2013, 03:04:04 PM »



And anyone who passes that along under their real name will forever be labelled a bigot and sexist.

Doesn't check out from Snopes. Apparently while size may be similar the facial and color features are likely altered to make it look more human like.

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« #6 : April 16, 2013, 06:06:12 PM »



And anyone who passes that along under their real name will forever be labelled a bigot and sexist.

Doesn't check out from Snopes. Apparently while size may be similar the facial and color features are likely altered to make it look more human like.

Did you really just say that? 



Hmm -- looks like you're right, a fetus at 12 weeks isn't remotely human like:

http://www.webmd.com/baby/ss/slideshow-fetal-development


yep, I suppose that could just as easily be a turtle.  Or maybe a minnow?




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« #7 : April 16, 2013, 09:50:59 PM »



And anyone who passes that along under their real name will forever be labelled a bigot and sexist.

Doesn't check out from Snopes. Apparently while size may be similar the facial and color features are likely altered to make it look more human like.

Did you really just say that? 
Hmm -- looks like you're right, a fetus at 12 weeks isn't remotely human like:

http://www.webmd.com/baby/ss/slideshow-fetal-development


yep, I suppose that could just as easily be a turtle.  Or maybe a minnow?
I did the same thing you did - but before posting other sites decided he wasn't worth the effort because he is comfortable with that thought

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« #8 : April 16, 2013, 11:17:50 PM »

What's really sad is that none of these constant defenders of everything liberal is coming anywhere near this thread.  Wonder if it's the same reason the MSM was trying it's best to ignore it.  I mean, we can all agree that what this guy did was harrific right?  That infanticide is barbaric.

Well, other than this crazy planned parenthood representative:


And of course this unknown senator from Illinois, heck even in that blue empire he was the only one against it.  Good thing he went nowhere:

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« #9 : April 17, 2013, 01:21:48 AM »

What's really sad is that none of these constant defenders of everything liberal is coming anywhere near this thread.

I suspect that there are three reasons that none of the "constant defenders of everything liberal" are coming anywhere near this thread.

1. Kermit Gosnell was performing illegal procedures, which is why there is a trial to begin with. What he was doing is already against the law. Using a doctor who is on trial for providing illegal abortions as a representation of why abortion should be illegal is tragically flawed logic. The moral indignation that you are levying against the pro-choice crowd seems to ignore the fact that in a state that has some of the more lenient abortion laws in the country, Gosnell's actions were still seen as illegal and immoral. There is no real reason to argue against it, because your premise argues against itself.

2. When called out on the picture of a fetus at 12 weeks being a fake, the argument was to then show a picture of a fetus at 12 weeks and claim that since it didn't look like a turtle or a minnow, it wasn't a relevant criticism. This begs the question, if a fetus at 12 weeks does look enough like a human to provoke the same type of emotional response as the fake picture does, then why make the fake picture?

3. As I stated before, PA has some of the most lenient abortion laws in the country, yet this guy still had lots of patients looking for his services. If you were to outlaw abortions altogteher, do you think that would create less Kermit Gosnell's, or perhaps would it create more?
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« #10 : April 17, 2013, 02:39:35 AM »

http://articles.philly.com/2013-04-12/news/38494337_1_gosnell-employee-tina-baldwin-abortions

this one goes with - http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/18/55772015-abortions-in-america-since-roe-vs-wade-in-1973/

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As far as population control, I'm glad there aren't another 55M unwanted mouths to feed.

Do what you want with yours, but I'll always support a woman's right to chose.

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« #11 : April 17, 2013, 03:54:53 AM »

http://articles.philly.com/2013-04-12/news/38494337_1_gosnell-employee-tina-baldwin-abortions

this one goes with - http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/18/55772015-abortions-in-america-since-roe-vs-wade-in-1973/

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As far as population control, I'm glad there aren't another 55M unwanted mouths to feed.

Do what you want with yours, but I'll always support a woman's right to chose.

So you recognize these were human beings (or "unwanted mouths") that were killed, but you're cool with it because it's OK for women to choose who lives and dies.  You might want to take a closer look at that thing you think is your moral compass...

Does infanticide bug you, or is that cool too?  After all, it's just population control.




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« #12 : April 17, 2013, 06:55:25 AM »

http://articles.philly.com/2013-04-12/news/38494337_1_gosnell-employee-tina-baldwin-abortions

this one goes with - http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/18/55772015-abortions-in-america-since-roe-vs-wade-in-1973/

55,772,015
As far as population control, I'm glad there aren't another 55M unwanted mouths to feed.

Do what you want with yours, but I'll always support a woman's right to chose.

So you recognize these were human beings (or "unwanted mouths") that were killed, but you're cool with it because it's OK for women to choose who lives and dies.  You might want to take a closer look at that thing you think is your moral compass...

Does infanticide bug you, or is that cool too?  After all, it's just population control.

This would be reason 4 why no defender of liberalism would come anywhere near this thread. Being pelted by all of the stones of self-righteousness you are hurling at them isn't really a constructive use of their time.


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« #13 : April 17, 2013, 10:22:47 AM »

Lol. I didn't know Christopher Reeves meal options garnered so much response


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« #14 : April 18, 2013, 05:34:59 PM »

Defender of liberalism - like this one?


Tale of two terrorists
Columbia job for Boston bomber?

By JOHN M. MURTAGH
Last Updated: 12:46 AM, April 18, 2013
Posted: 11:54 PM, April 17, 2013
Somewhere near Boston early Monday morning, he packed a bomb in a bag. It was by all accounts relatively crude — a pressure cooker, explosives, some wires, ball bearings and nails . . . nails which, hours later, doctors would struggle to remove from the flesh of bleeding victims.

His motive is unclear. His intent is not: It was to maximize injury, suffering, pain, trauma and, yes, death.

Perhaps Monday’s bomber will be caught, perhaps not.

Perhaps Monday’s bomber will be offered a teaching job at Columbia University.

Forty-three years ago last month, Kathy Boudin, now a professor at Columbia but then a member of the Weather Underground, escaped an explosion at a bomb factory operated in a townhouse in Greenwich Village. The story is familiar to people of a certain age.

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(Some) justice, delayed: Kathy Boudin in police custody in 1983, years after committing her crimes.
Three weeks earlier, Boudin’s Weathermen had firebombed a private home in Upper Manhattan with Molotov **CENSORED**tails. Their target was my father, a New York state Supreme Court justice. The rest of the family, was presumably, an afterthought. I was 9 at the time, only a year older than the youngest victim in Boston.

One of Boudin’s colleagues, Cathy Wilkerson, related in her memoir that the Weathermen were disappointed with the minimal effects of the bombs at my home. They decided to use dynamite the next time and bought a large quantity along with fuses, metal pipes and, yes, nails. The group designated as its next target a dance at an Officer’s Club at Fort Dix, NJ.

Despite the misgivings of some, it is reported that Kathy Boudin urged the use of “anti-personnel bombs.” In other words, she wanted to kill people not just damage property. Before they could act, her fellows were killed in the townhouse explosion. The townhouse itself collapsed; Boudin fled.

She reappeared over a decade later driving the getaway car for the rag tag mix of Weathermen and Black Panthers who held up a Rockland County bank in 1981, murdering three in the process. Survivors of the ambush along the New York State Thruway recount how Boudin emerged from the driver’s door, arms raised in surrender, asking the police to lower their guns. When they did, her accomplices burst from the back of the van guns blazing.

As I said, people of a certain age remember this history. For those that don’t, Robert Redford is kindly about to release a movie recounting the Rockland robbery (albeit relocated to Michigan). By all accounts, the film lionizes the Weather Underground terrorists, Boudin and her accomplices.

Perhaps to bring it full circle, Professor Boudin can soon guest-lecture at a film class at Columbia when the Redford movie is screened.

Other than the passage of time, one can find no real distinction between the cowardly actions of last Monday’s Boston murderer and the terror carried out by Boudin and her accomplices. Yet today we live in a country where our leading educational institutions see fit to trust our children’s education to murderers and Hollywood sees fit to celebrate terrorists.

The Web site of Columbia’s School of Social Work sums up Boudin’s past thus: “Dr. Kathy Boudin has been an educator and counselor with experience in program development since 1964, working within communities with limited resources to solve social problems.”

“Since 1964” — that would include the bombing of my house, it would include the anti-personnel devices intended for Fort Dix and it would include the dead policeman on the side of the Thruway in 1981.

Maybe, if he is caught, Monday’s bomber can explain that, like Boudin, he was merely working within the community to solve social problems.

Perhaps Monday’s bomber will be caught, perhaps not. Perhaps, some day, Monday’s bomber will be offered tenure at Columbia University.

John M. Murtagh is Of Counsel to the White Plains law firm of Gaines, Gruner, Ponzini & Novick, LLP. He lives in Westchester.

Twitter: @johnmurtagh

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