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« #225 : April 24, 2013, 02:13:25 PM »

Miranda rights are only for US citizens (and this idiot just became a citizen last yr, his brother was denied) charged with crimes by the US government in the US.

The whole Miranda thing is irrelevant anyway as it only applies to statements/actions he made between being arrested and being Mirandized. All the photos, video evidence, finding bomb materials in his house and car, etc. are more than sufficient to convict


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« #226 : April 24, 2013, 03:20:33 PM »

  Im not saying this country doesn't do it all the time,  im just telling you how it should be. If they are taken into custody in the midst of a crime,  yes they should be given a trial. If they are killed because we are forced to use deadly force against them then that is just tough luck. Investigations can be done if we think that force was not necessary.
 Btw,  many of those undeclared wars you just mentioned are perfect examples of why wars should have to be declared.
Why?  Because many of those undeclared wars were the biggest wastes of human lives for no good reason this country has ever seen.
« : April 24, 2013, 03:38:24 PM Fire Mark Dummynik »

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« #227 : April 24, 2013, 03:53:06 PM »

  Im not saying this country doesn't do it all the time,  im just telling you how it should be. If they are taken into custody in the midst of a crime,  yes they should be given a trial.


Even if they are not a US Citizen??  The older brother was not a citizen, if he had been captured does he get a trial?

And what if they are captured outside this country? Let's say Abdul is naturalized as a citizen in August, and he plants a bomb in October and sneaks out of the country but is captured in Kandahar. Do we ship him back for a trial or stick him in Gitmo?



 Btw,  many of those undeclared wars you just mentioned are perfect examples of why wars should have to be declared.
Why?  Because many of those undeclared wars were the biggest wastes of human lives for no good reason this country has ever seen.

True

Also I forgot the bloodiest war in US history, the Civil War, was undeclared. Congress never declared war, just refused to accept the Southern States secession and treated it as an insurrection.


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« #228 : April 24, 2013, 03:54:28 PM »

For instance,  we have no right to keep POW's from an undeclared war in the Middle East at Gitmo indefinetly and never give them a trial. Its a human rights violation. Period. Obama and the Dems used to agree with me on this and now we know they were full of shlt.
« : April 24, 2013, 03:57:19 PM Fire Mark Dummynik »

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« #229 : April 24, 2013, 04:01:54 PM »

I do believe non citizens deserve a trial.  Wouldn't you want one if you were charged with a crime in a foreign country? 

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« #230 : April 24, 2013, 05:13:47 PM »

So, these guys were on welfare? 

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« #231 : April 24, 2013, 07:57:07 PM »

Yes, and there is more - including John Kerry's head up his arse comment towards the end of the article where he advises readers of the lack of belief by the murderers..

Suspect returned from Russia ‘with a willingness to kill people,’ Kerry says

By Tracy Jan |  GLOBE STAFF     APRIL 24, 2013

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Secretary of State John Kerry.

WASHINGTON – Secretary of State John Kerry said on Wednesday that Tamerlan Tsarnaev returned from a six-month stay in Russia last year “with a willingness to kill people.”

In impromptu remarks on terrorism made in Brussels, Kerry said in response to a question about disillusioned young people in other parts of the world that similar problems exist in the United States.

“We just had a young person who went to Russia, Chechnya, who blew people up in Boston,” Kerry said. “So he didn’t stay where he went, but he learned something where he went and he came back with a willingness to kill people.”

It remains unclear precisely what Tsarnaev did during his trip to the Russia, although it is known that he went to Dagestan, a region neighboring Chechnya, and relatives have said he visited Chechnya as well during part of his extended visit. US officials have said they are not yet certain whether the 26-year-old, accused of carrying out last week’s Boston Marathon bombings with his brother, received any formal training by terrorist organizations.

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Russia alerted US repeatedly about suspect, senators say

Kerry made his comments during an informal question-and-answer period following his meeting with Belgian Foreign Minister Didier Reynders.

“The Secretary was simply expressing broad concern about radicalism rather than indicating any new information or conclusion about the individuals involved,” a senior State Department official told the Globe Wednesday.

Russian authorities had alerted the US government multiple times of their concerns about Tsarnaev. The FBI had interviewed Tsarnaev in 2011 but said it found no evidence that he was a threat. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina has said the agency told him it was not aware of Tsarnaev’s travels to the Russian provinces of Dagestan and Chechnya, where he spent more than half of 2012, because his name had been misspelled on an airline passenger list.

US Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano said Tuesday that Homeland Security was aware of the trip, raising concerns about the level of communication between the FBI and Homeland Security.

Tsarnaev died after a shootout with police last Friday. His 19-year-old brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, has told investigators from his hospital bed that the two acted alone because they were upset over US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The brothers are ethnic Chechens who immigrated to the US from Kyrgyzstan.

Kerry on Wednesday also spoke about terrorism and challenges in places like the Congo and the Middle East, saying that protecting citizens and reducing terror in the world will come “not just with strong security” but with “strong relationships that we build outside the military but within our societies, so that young people have an opportunity looking forward to the future.”

“I think the world has had enough of people who have no belief system, no policy for jobs, no policy for education, no policy for rule of law, but just want to kill people because they don’t like what they see,” Kerry said. “There’s not room for that . . . We need to, all of us, do a better job of communicating to people what the options of life are.”

Tracy Jan can be reached at tjan@globe.com. Follow her on Twitter @GlobeTracyJan.

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« #232 : April 24, 2013, 09:59:57 PM »

Damnittohell - this could have been stopped????!!!!!!

Russia alerted US repeatedly about suspect, senators say

Brothers may have planned to go to NYC next

By Bryan Bender, Noah Bierman, Mark Arsenault and Kevin Cullen |  GLOBE STAFF     APRIL 24, 2013

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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev may have planned to continue their attacks in New York City after they set off two bombs on April 15 at the finish line of the Boston Marathon, investigators said.

WASHINGTON — Russian authorities contacted the US government with concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev not once but “multiple’’ times, including an alert it sent after he was first investigated by FBI agents in Boston, raising new questions about whether the FBI should have paid more attention to the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, US senators briefed on the inves­tigation said Tuesday.

The FBI has previously said it interviewed Tsarnaev in early 2011 after it was initially contacted by the ­Russians. In their review, completed in summer 2011, the bureau found no ­evidence that Tsarnaev was a threat. “The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from” Russia, the agency said last week.

Following a closed briefing of the Senate Intelligence Committee Tuesday, Senator Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, said he believed that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in “multiple contacts,” including at least once since October 2011.

The details came amid revelations that the brothers may have planned to escape to New York last week with a car full of bombs, according to a senior law enforce­ment official. “We just killed a cop. We blew up the Marathon. And now we’re going to New York. Don’t [expletive] with us,” Tamerlan told a witness, the official said.

Bombing suspects Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev

Tsarnaev’s younger brother and alleged coconspirator, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, told ­authorities Sunday that the siblings carried out the deadly ­attack on the city’s signature road race, in part because of ­Tamerlan’s anger over US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, said the law enforcement official.

‘These guys had admitted to killing three civilians and a police officer, and . . . they were prepared to kill many others.’


The official said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev made the admission to FBI agents who interviewed him at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, where he is ­being treated for multiple gunshot wounds. At the time, he had not yet been read his rights. The 19-year-old was listed in fair condition Tuesday, an improvement from serious condition the day before.

The alleged terrorist also told investigators that 26-year-old Tamerlan, killed Friday in a police shootout in Watertown, had been radicalized in an ­extreme form of Islam and that the brothers acted alone in the attack, according to the official.

The youngest person killed in the bombing, 8-year-old Martin Richard of Dorchester, was remembered in a private funeral ceremony Tuesday morning. “We laid our son ­Martin to rest, and he is now at peace,” his parents, Bill and ­Denise Richard, said in a brief statement. They plan to hold a public memorial service in the coming weeks.

In Stoneham, a private ­funeral service was held at St. Patrick Church for MIT police Officer Sean Collier, whom the Tsarnaev brothers allegedly ­assassinated Thursday night. Vice President Joe Biden is ­expected to attend a memorial Wednesday for the slain officer.

Boston’s Back Bay, shut down for more than a week ­after the explosions, began to reopen, as authorities led residents and business owners to their properties, many of which seemed frozen in time, with open bottles of wine still standing at restaurants hastily evacuated after the blasts.

Authorities believe that the Tsarnaev brothers planted the pair of bombs that exploded 12 seconds apart on April 15 on crowded Boylston Street. Three people died and 264 were ­injured, many seriously, according to the latest tally.

The US Department of ­Justice charged Dzhokhar ­Tsarnaev Monday with using a weapon of mass destruction to kill, an offense that can carry a penalty of death.

More charges will probably be added: On Thursday night and Friday morning, the brothers allegedly killed Collier, carjacked a motorist in Allston, and exchanged gunfire and hurled bombs during a firefight with officers in Watertown.

Tsarnaev’s attorneys are ­almost certain to challenge the legal admissibility of the admissions Tsarnaev made Sunday about the attacks and its ­motives.

But a senior police official said authorities have a strong witness in the case who can provide much of the same information: the man who was allegedly carjacked and abducted by the Tsarnaev brothers last Thursday night. The alleged carjacking came a few hours ­after the FBI released images taken from security cameras on Boylston Street, which showed two suspects carrying backpacks believed to have carried the bombs.

A law enforcement official said the carjack victim has told police that the brothers pointed guns at him and admitted to the bombing in an apparent ­effort to intimidate him. The brothers allegedly forced the man to turn over his ATM card and password.

By the time officers confronted the brothers early Friday morning, “we already knew these guys had admitted to killing three civilians and a police officer and that they were prepared to kill many others,” the senior official said.

The official said the bombers repeatedly told the victim they were going to New York. Investigators are trying to determine if the brothers had friends or coconspirators there. But their haphazard, ill-planned escape has many investigators skeptical that there were other radicals involved in the attack.

“If they had accomplices in New York, you’d think they would have had an established contingency plan to get down there to them and wouldn’t be shooting cops and carjacking cars to steal ATM cards to ­finance their escape,” the official said. “That said, we haven’t ruled out anything in New York. We’re looking into who they knew down there and was anyone in New York prepared to hide them.”

New information also emerged Tuesday on the suspects’ interest in explosives.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the ­elder brother, bought large mortar kits in February from a New Hampshire fireworks store less than an hour’s drive from Boston, said Phantom Fireworks vice president ­William Weimer. According to store records, Tsarnaev spent $200 for two “Lock and Load” kits, each with 24 shells, from the Phantom Fireworks store in Seabrook, N.H., Weimer said.

The shells contain a mix of clay, a powder to deliver color and noise, and two powdered explosives. He said only a negligible amount of explosives could be extracted from all 48 shells. “What my guess is, they purchased these products in early February, experimented with them, and probably came to the conclusion that they couldn’t harvest enough powder to do what they wanted to do with them,” Weimer said.

The lawyer for Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s widow issued a statement on her behalf Tuesday, saying Katherine Russell knew nothing of the bombing plot. “The injuries and loss of life — to people who came to celebrate a race and a holiday — has caused profound distress and sorrow to Katie and her family. The reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all.”

In Washington, senators said the closed-door briefing on Tuesday also revealed failures among federal agencies to share vital information about Tsarnaev, indicating, they said, that the US government still has not established a strong system to “connect the dots’’ about would-be terrorists residing in the United States more than a ­decade after 9/11.

Senator Susan Collins, a Maine Republican and a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, praised law enforce­ment authorities for quickly putting a halt to the violent spree Thursday night and Friday. “But I’m very concerned that there still seem to be serious problems with the sharing of information, including critical investigative information,’’ she said after emerging from the briefing. “That is troubling to me, this many years after the attacks on our country in 2001, that we still seem to have stovepipes that prevent information from being shared effectively.”

Burr, the North Carolina senator, contended that the Russians contacted the FBI several times, but the bureau disputed that assertion.

Spokesman Paul Besson said late Tuesday that the FBI maintains that it had only one contact with the Russians about Tsarnaev, in spring 2011, but could not comment about other agencies.

Warnings raised by Russia have loomed large in the investigation of how Tsarnaev, a ­Kyrgyzstan national, and his younger brother, Dzhokhar, a naturalized US citizen, allegedly prepared for the bombing.

“I think the increasing signals are that these are individuals that were radicalized, especially the older brother, over a period of time,’’ Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, said after the briefing. He said the brothers “used Internet sources to gain not just the philosophical beliefs that radicalized them, but also learning components of how to do these sorts of things.”

US officials have faced tough questions for not tracking the older brother’s travels to the Russian provinces of Dagestan and Chechnya, where he spent more than half of 2012 and may have interacted with militant groups or individuals.

Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said Monday that the FBI told him it was not aware of the older Tsarnaev’s travels because his name had been misspelled on an airliner passenger list. US Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano confirmed the misspelling during a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday, but she said Homeland Security nonetheless was aware of his trip.

“Even with the misspelling under our current system, there are redundancies, and so the system did ping when he was leaving the United States,” she said.

Her disclosure that Homeland Security knew of the trip raised questions among lawmakers. “I want to make sure that DHS is talking to the FBI,” said Senator Charles Grassley, the ranking Republican on the ­Judiciary Committee. “It looks to me like there is a lack of communication.”

John R. Ellement, Brian Ballou, Jenn Abelson and Casey Ross of the Globe staff and Globe correspondents Lauren Dezenski and Evan Allen contributed. Mark Arsenault can be reached at marsenault@globe.com.

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« #233 : April 24, 2013, 11:08:03 PM »

Russia warned us repeatedly about this guy.  This definitely could have been stopped.  But better get ready for another Benghazi-style coverup and media whitewash, along with much wailing about not tying this into anythng other than two random losers.


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« #234 : April 24, 2013, 11:45:41 PM »

Russia warned us repeatedly about this guy.  This definitely could have been stopped.  But better get ready for another Benghazi-style coverup and media whitewash, along with much wailing about not tying this into anythng other than two random losers.

This sounds eerily similar to the current administrations handling of the bombings in Libya that occurred last year.    It is rather clear that too many government officials are dropping the ball on these type of attacks.. More interested in harassing  80 year old and 4 year old life long US citizens as potential terrorist threats. :-[

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« #235 : April 24, 2013, 11:51:35 PM »

It all starts with the immigration process currently in use....

ANN COULTER LETTER
THE PROBLEM ISN’T JUST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT’S LEGAL IMMIGRATION, TOO

By: Ann Coulter
4/24/2013 03:32 PM
The people of Boston are no longer being terrorized by the Marathon bombers, but amnesty supporters sure are.
On CNN’s “State of the Union” last weekend, Sen. Lindsey Graham’s response to the Boston Marathon bombers being worthless immigrants who hate America — one of whom the FBI cleared even after being tipped off by Russia — was to announce: “The fact that we could not track him has to be fixed.”
Track him? How about not admitting him as an immigrant?
As if it’s a defense, we’re told Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (of the Back Bay Tsarnaevs) were disaffected “losers” — the word used by their own uncle — who couldn’t make it in America. Their father had already returned to Russia. Tamerlan had dropped out of college, been arrested for domestic violence and said he had no American friends. Dzhokhar was failing most of his college courses. All of them were on welfare.
(Dzhokhar was given everything America had to offer, and now he only has one thing in his future to look forward to … a tenured professorship.)
My thought is, maybe we should consider admitting immigrants who can succeed in America, rather than deadbeats.
But we’re not allowed to “discriminate” in favor of immigrants who would be good for America. Instead of helping America, our immigration policies are designed to help other countries solve their internal problems by shipping their losers to us.
The problem isn’t just illegal immigration. I would rather have doctors and engineers sneaking into the country than legally arriving ditch-diggers.
Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act so dramatically altered the kinds of immigrants America admits that, since 1969, about 85 percent of legal immigrants have come from the Third World. They bring Third World levels of poverty, fertility, illegitimacy and domestic violence with them. When they can’t make it in America, they simply go on welfare and sometimes strike out at Americans.
In addition to the four dead and more than 100 badly wounded victims of the Boston Marathon bombing, let’s consider a few of the many other people who would be alive, but for Kennedy’s immigration law:
– The six Long Island railroad passengers murdered in 1993 by Jamaican immigrant Colin Ferguson. Before the shooting, Ferguson was unemployed, harassing women on subways, repeatedly bringing lawsuits against police and former employers, applying for workman’s compensation for fake injuries and blaming all his problems on white people. Whom he then decided to murder.
– The two people killed outside CIA headquarters in 1993 by Pakistani illegal immigrant Mir Qazi. He had been working as a driver for a courier company. (It’s nearly impossible to find an American who can drive.)
– Christoffer Burmeister, a 27 year-old musician killed in a mass shooting by Palestinian immigrant Ali Hassan Abu Kamal in 1997 at the Empire State Building. Hassan had immigrated to America with his family two months earlier at age 68. (It’s a smart move to bring in immigrants just in time to pay them Social Security benefits!)
– Bill Cosby’s son, Ennis, killed in 1997 by 18-year-old Ukrainian immigrant Mikhail Markhasev, who had come to this country with his single mother eight years earlier — because we were running short on single mothers.
Markhasev, who had a juvenile record, shot Cosby point-blank for taking too long to produce his wallet. He later bragged about killing a “n*gger.”
– The three people murdered at the Appalachian School of Law in 2002 by Nigerian immigrant Peter Odighizuwa, angry at America because he had failed out of law school. At least it’s understandable why our immigration policies would favor a 43-year-old law student. It’s so hard to get Americans to go to law school these days!
– The stewardess and passenger murdered by Egyptian immigrant Hesham Mohamed Hadayet when he shot up the El Al ticket counter at the Los Angeles airport in 2002. Hesham, a desperately needed limousine driver, received refugee status in the U.S. because he was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Apparently, that’s a selling point if you want to immigrate to America.
– The six men murdered by Mexican immigrant Salvador Tapia at the Windy City Core Supply warehouse in Chicago in 2003, from which he had been fired six months earlier. Tapia was still in this country despite having been arrested at least a dozen times on weapons and assault charges. Only foreign newspapers mentioned that Tapia was an immigrant. American newspapers blamed the gun.
– The six people killed in northern Wisconsin in 2004 by Hmong immigrant Chai Soua Vang, who shot his victims in the back after being caught trespassing on their property. Minnesota Public Radio later explained that Hmong hunters don’t understand American laws about private property, endangered species, or really any laws written in English. It was an unusual offense for a Hmong, whose preferred crime is raping 12- to 14-year-old girls — as extensively covered in the Fresno Bee and Minneapolis Star Tribune.
– The five people murdered at the Trolley Square Shopping Mall in Salt Lake City by Bosnian immigrant Sulejman Talovic in 2007. Talovic was a Muslim high school dropout with a juvenile record. No room for you, Swedish doctor. We need resentful Muslims!
– The 32 people murdered at Virginia Tech in 2007 by Seung-Hui Cho, a South Korean immigrant.
– The 13 soldiers murdered at Fort Hood in 2009 by “accused” shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, son of Palestinian immigrants. Hasan’s parents had operated a restaurant in Roanoke, Va., because where are we going to find Americans to do that?
– The 13 people killed at the American Civic Association in Binghamton, N.Y., by Vietnamese immigrant Jiverly Wong, who became a naturalized citizen two years after being convicted of fraud and forgery in California. Wong was angry that people disrespected him for his poor English skills.
– Florence Donovan-Gunderson, who was shot along with her husband, and three National Guardsmen in a Carson City IHOP gunned down by Mexican immigrant Eduardo Sencion in 2011.
– The three people, including a 15-year-old girl, murdered in their home in North Miami by Kesler Dufrene, a Haitian immigrant and convicted felon who had been arrested nine times, but was released when Obama halted deportations to Haiti after the earthquake. Dufrene chose the house at random.
– The many African-Americans murdered by Hispanic gangs in Los Angeles in the last few years, including Jamiel Shaw Jr., a star football player being recruited by Stanford; Cheryl Green, a 14-year-old eighth-grade student chosen for murder solely because she was black; and Christopher Ash, who witnessed Green’s murder.
During the three years from 2010 through 2012, immigrants have committed about a dozen mass murders in this country, not including the 9/11 attack.
The mass murderers were from Afghanistan, South Korea, Vietnam, Haiti, South Africa, Ethiopia and Mexico. None were from Canada or Western Europe.
I don’t want to hear about the black crime rate or the Columbine killers. We’re talking about immigrants here! There should be ZERO immigrants committing crimes.There should be ZERO immigrants accepting government assistance. There should be ZERO immigrants demanding that we speak their language.
We have no choice about native-born losers. We ought to be able to do something about the people we chose to bring here.
Meanwhile, our government officials just keep singing the praises of “diversity,” while expressly excluding skilled immigrants who might be less inclined to become “disaffected” and lash out by killing Americans.
In response to the shooting at Fort Hood, Army Chief of Staff Gen. George W. Casey Jr. said: “As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”
On “Fox News Sunday” this week, former CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden said of the Boston bombing suspects, “We welcome these kinds of folks coming to the United States who want to be contributing American citizens.”
Unless, that is, they have a college degree and bright prospects. Those immigrants are prohibited.
 

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« #236 : April 25, 2013, 12:32:23 AM »




Watch the right-wing stooges dance.

Another Imbecilic post from an imbecilic poster.




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« #238 : April 25, 2013, 10:48:37 AM »

Published On: Tue, Apr 23rd, 2013 Politics / US News / World News | By Brandon Jones
UN Official, Richard Falk, Says Boston Got What It Deserves, Quotes ‘Whom Evil Is Done, Do Evil In Return’
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UN Human Rights Council expert Richard Falk said in a statment that Bostonians got what they deserved noting that George W. Bush sought a pre-text to invade Iraq and dropped a famous quote which blamed America.


The bloody aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombing is what the US deserves according to one UN official. photo Twitter/@theoriginalwak

Falk’s commentary began by stating how ‘Islamaphobic’ America has become and how Bush manipulated the crowds to go to war in Iraq, “the neocon presidency of George W. Bush was in 2001, prior to the attacks, openly seeking a pretext to launch a regime-changing war against Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, and the 9/11 events, as interpreted and spun, provided just the supportive domestic climate needed for launching an aggressive war against the Baghdad regime.”

The article then attacks Bostonians directly with their ”hysterical dragnet” before explaining how Boston’s dead were “canaries” that “have to die” because of America’s “fantasy of global domination.”

“The American global domination project is bound to generate all kinds of resistance in the post-colonial world. In some respects, the United States has been fortunate not to experience worse blowbacks, and these may yet happen, especially if there is no disposition to rethink US relations to others in the world, starting with the Middle East.”

Some critics may interpret that comment as a threat, especially as Falk says the US needs to better accommodate the demands of “the Islamic world,” especially over the Israel/Palestine conflict.

Critics attack Falk, saying he espouses the worst forms of antisemitism from his UN perch, and for his efforts has been rewarded with repeated opportunities by the Council to lecture others on his world view.

“Obama’s March trip to Israel was highlighted by his March 21st speech in Jerusalem, which was delivered as a love letter to the Israeli public rather than qualifying as a good faith effort to demonstrate his belief in a just peace. Such obsequious diplomacy was a disappointment even to those of us with low expectations in what the White House is willing to overcome the prolonged ordeal of the Palestinian people.”

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« #239 : April 25, 2013, 11:12:25 AM »

So, these guys were on welfare?

Don't judge them.

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