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24 REASONS WHY THE BUCS NEED TO TRADE FOR REVIS

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JC5100:

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--- Quote from: JC5100 on April 18, 2013, 09:05:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: PewterReportSR on April 18, 2013, 08:20:05 AM ---1. The Bucs know the Jets have to trade Revis. Because of a contract stipulation, the Jets cannot franchise him past the 2013 season, and there has been no indication that Jets owner Woody Johnson wants to pay Revis anywhere close to his asking price of $15 million per year. First-year New York general manager John Idzik canít risk losing Revis after the 2013 season and getting only a compensatory pick in 2014 in return. Thatís a fireable offense for losing a Pro Bowler that is considered to be the NFL's top cornerback.

2. The Jets canít afford to have the Revis situation become a distraction this offseason. Between Tim Tebow and Mark Sanchez, the Jets already have enough distractions for the New York media to write about. The fact that head coach Rex Ryan is on the hot seat this year is a clear indication that the Jets need to become a focused team in 2013.

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These are reasons why he's available, not why the Bucs NEED to trade for him. If anything they're reasons why the Bucs DON'T need to give up premium picks for him. If the Bucs are indeed the only team interested in him then his REAL value is only our 4th round pick, which is the equivalent to the 2014 3rd round compensation pick they would get. The fact that he's UFA in 11 months is a weapon the Bucs have to use in all this.

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How are they getting a 2014 3rd round comp pick?
The earliest they might get a comp pick is 2015, if they get anything at all.
The Jets can't count on getting anything at all for Revis unless they already know they won't be using the new cap space in 2014 to sign any FAs.
I would think the most they can hope for will be a 2015 5th round comp pick unless they take whatever deal we deem worthwhile.
The only factor that plays against us in terms of picks would be offering something so insultingly low that another team with cap room jumps in just because they can.
In reality the only thing we are bidding against is the compensation tipping point where another team becomes willing to make a deal.
This is perception vs reality for the Jets, the perception is that Revis is talented enough to get them multiple high picks, reality is he really isn't worth more than a 4th rounder if they have to get rid, Idjit is trying to find a safe middle ground where he gets picks while not getting ripped apart by their fan base/media for "giving Revis away"

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You're right about 2015 instead of 2014. But they are going to get a nice comp pick even if they sign free agents because Revis on the open market will get $80-100M

TBTrojan:

--- Quote from: JC5100 on April 18, 2013, 10:20:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: TBTrojan on April 18, 2013, 09:23:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: JC5100 on April 18, 2013, 09:05:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: PewterReportSR on April 18, 2013, 08:20:05 AM ---1. The Bucs know the Jets have to trade Revis. Because of a contract stipulation, the Jets cannot franchise him past the 2013 season, and there has been no indication that Jets owner Woody Johnson wants to pay Revis anywhere close to his asking price of $15 million per year. First-year New York general manager John Idzik canít risk losing Revis after the 2013 season and getting only a compensatory pick in 2014 in return. Thatís a fireable offense for losing a Pro Bowler that is considered to be the NFL's top cornerback.

2. The Jets canít afford to have the Revis situation become a distraction this offseason. Between Tim Tebow and Mark Sanchez, the Jets already have enough distractions for the New York media to write about. The fact that head coach Rex Ryan is on the hot seat this year is a clear indication that the Jets need to become a focused team in 2013.

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These are reasons why he's available, not why the Bucs NEED to trade for him. If anything they're reasons why the Bucs DON'T need to give up premium picks for him. If the Bucs are indeed the only team interested in him then his REAL value is only our 4th round pick, which is the equivalent to the 2014 3rd round compensation pick they would get. The fact that he's UFA in 11 months is a weapon the Bucs have to use in all this.

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How are they getting a 2014 3rd round comp pick?
The earliest they might get a comp pick is 2015, if they get anything at all.
The Jets can't count on getting anything at all for Revis unless they already know they won't be using the new cap space in 2014 to sign any FAs.
I would think the most they can hope for will be a 2015 5th round comp pick unless they take whatever deal we deem worthwhile.
The only factor that plays against us in terms of picks would be offering something so insultingly low that another team with cap room jumps in just because they can.
In reality the only thing we are bidding against is the compensation tipping point where another team becomes willing to make a deal.
This is perception vs reality for the Jets, the perception is that Revis is talented enough to get them multiple high picks, reality is he really isn't worth more than a 4th rounder if they have to get rid, Idjit is trying to find a safe middle ground where he gets picks while not getting ripped apart by their fan base/media for "giving Revis away"

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You're right about 2015 instead of 2014. But they are going to get a nice comp pick even if they sign free agents because Revis on the open market will get $80-100M

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Their issue is not going to be the contract he gets elsewhere, it will be the number of FA losses/gains they have in 2014.
You only have to look at how the Chargers got nothing at all after we signed Jackson for big money, simply because they signed trash like Meachem, Royal, McMichael.
The Jets are so low on talent that whatever cap space they gain with the loss of Revis will go on so many mid tier FAs that they will lose any & all comp picks Revis might have gotten them.

Hate:
20. Former Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum recently praised Revis for taking an interest in helping New Yorkís practice squad players. Revis is a person of high character, who has been mislabeled as arrogant and greedy. He could be an excellent role model for young Buccaneers if he were to continue that practice in Tampa Bay.

Mislabeled? He is arrogant and greedy.....not that there's anything wrong with that! Hell, so am I :D

JC5100:

--- Quote from: TBTrojan on April 18, 2013, 10:33:42 AM ---Their issue is not going to be the contract he gets elsewhere, it will be the number of FA losses/gains they have in 2014.
You only have to look at how the Chargers got nothing at all after we signed Jackson for big money, simply because they signed trash like Meachem, Royal, McMichael.
The Jets are so low on talent that whatever cap space they gain with the loss of Revis will go on so many mid tier FAs that they will lose any & all comp picks Revis might have gotten them.

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I don't see them spending anywhere near $80-$100M on mid tier free agents. The contracts the Chargers spent on Jarret Johnson, Meachem and Royal were for a combined $59M, vs Jackson's $55M

Benchwarmer#1:
Greed and arrogance isn't bad... Slapping cab drivers around, popping adderall, and waffling teammates with helmets is bad.

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