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#60 : June 18, 2014, 07:38:31 PM

not even sure what that means, other than that you're lonely.


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#61 : June 18, 2014, 07:49:20 PM


Good. Nice to see you admit you're wrong for a change.

Good strategy ... hope no one can read

the second amendment is in place partially to allow citizens to protect themselves from their own government.

the second amendment is in place partially to allow citizens to protect themselves from their own government.

well, not really . . at least not in the sense it is being discussed here. If you think about it, the guys drafting the 2nd Amendment were "the government or would be in the government, so they didn't draft the 2nd Amendment to protect voters from themselves.

Right, it wasn't drafted to protect citizens of the standing government, because the founding fathers weren't corrupt scumbags like the politicians of today. It was to protect future generations.

lol ...and then

They might have thought future governments were going to be dangerous to those they govern, or maybe not. That's irrelevant.

lol


You still don't get it, shocking. Some of the founding fathers may have felt citizens would one day need to protect themselves from their own government, some may have not. But they ALL were aware it was at least a possibility. This is why I brought up the home alarm example. You don't buy one KNOWING your house is going to be broken in to, you buy one IN CASE your home is broken in to. Going by your logic, if you aren't absolutely certain your home will be broken in to, there's no point in buying a home security system. How can anyone ever know if that's going to take place? They can't. How could the founding fathers ever know if future governments would turn on their citizens? They couldn't. In case it did happen, protection was provided through the second amendment. Whether each one agreed that one day it was going to happen is irrelevant, they clearly all agreed that it was at least a possibility. A possibility that needed to be accounted for, and it was.

It's kind of like seat belts. You don't put one on because you know you're going to encounter a drunk driver, you put one on in case you do. This is simple stuff.

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#62 : June 18, 2014, 08:12:56 PM


Good. Nice to see you admit you're wrong for a change.

Good strategy ... hope no one can read

the second amendment is in place partially to allow citizens to protect themselves from their own government.

the second amendment is in place partially to allow citizens to protect themselves from their own government.

well, not really . . at least not in the sense it is being discussed here. If you think about it, the guys drafting the 2nd Amendment were "the government or would be in the government, so they didn't draft the 2nd Amendment to protect voters from themselves.

Right, it wasn't drafted to protect citizens of the standing government, because the founding fathers weren't corrupt scumbags like the politicians of today. It was to protect future generations.

lol ...and then

They might have thought future governments were going to be dangerous to those they govern, or maybe not. That's irrelevant.

lol


You still don't get it, shocking. Some of the founding fathers may have felt citizens would one day need to protect themselves from their own government, some may have not. But they ALL were aware it was at least a possibility. This is why I brought up the home alarm example. You don't buy one KNOWING your house is going to be broken in to, you buy one IN CASE your home is broken in to. Going by your logic, if you aren't absolutely certain your home will be broken in to, there's no point in buying a home security system. How can anyone ever know if that's going to take place? They can't. How could the founding fathers ever know if future governments would turn on their citizens? They couldn't. In case it did happen, protection was provided through the second amendment. Whether each one agreed that one day it was going to happen is irrelevant, they clearly all agreed that it was at least a possibility. A possibility that needed to be accounted for, and it was.

It's kind of like seat belts. You don't put one on because you know you're going to encounter a drunk driver, you put one on in case you do. This is simple stuff.

lol, history is the trough. you are the horse. I dont expect you to drink


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#63 : June 18, 2014, 08:50:35 PM

Your way of saying "okay, i misinterpreted your initial post". Got it.

When do you get your license back? Hopefully soon, you could really use a break from these boards.

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#64 : June 18, 2014, 08:59:14 PM

man ...

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#66 : June 18, 2014, 11:20:15 PM



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The Gun Lobby's interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.  The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies - the militia - would be maintained for the defense of the state. The very language of the Second Amendment refutes any argument that it was intended to guarantee every citizen an unfettered right to any kind of weapon he or she desires.

Retired Chief Justice Warren Burger, "The Right to Bear Arms," Parade Magazine, January 14, 1990.

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